On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 9:11 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > 2010/5/19 Elizabeth Dodd <ed...@billiau.net>: >> On Wed, 19 May 2010, you wrote: >>> >> But all isolated farms are isolated_dwellings, no ? >>> > >>> > No. >>> > Some isolated farms (called stations) are as large as a hamlet. They are >>> > isolated in terms of tens of kms from their neighbours. Some appear on >>> > regular maps as if they were towns >>> > I'm sure that the Argentinians and the Americans have similar farms. >>> >>> then they should be tagged as place=hamlet, shouldn't they? >>> >> no, they aren't hamlets, or villages. >> places which have a place= in Au have official place names on government >> registers (eg NSW Geographical Names Board) > > > And the smaller ones don't? In Germany all human settlements > (excluding the ones that are not "official" i.e. illegal) are in some > government register, be it hamlets or smaller. > > I guess you would generally have to adopt the criteria for places in > AU, we did this in Germany and Italy as well. e.g. 999 inhabitants is > far too big for a hamlet in Europe. Towns we are not classifying by > population (on the lower end) but by their "status". I guess in AU > with it's scarse settlement structure it is necessary to display > hamlets also on lower zoom levels in the rendering than we can do in > Europe, ... > How to tag Norwegian named farms making part of a "grend" which I would have tagged as hamlet? They are not isolated dwellings as they are not isolated, just parts of the larger unit.
How to tag Brazillian Fazendas, they are farms that can consits of as many as 20 buildings, with living barracks for season workers and factory like buildings for pre-processing of their harvests. How to tag Brazillian Sitios, they are small farms or groups of houses, usually very isolated. For the first I would use place=farm on the named farms, making them part of place=hamlet The second I would call place=farm, they are not hamlets as often only one familly live there permanently, though there can be more than 100 workers in the harvest seasons The third I could call place=isolated_dwelling, though place=locality have fallen for me as completely natural. A[] > cheers, > Martin > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
