I took the freedom to remove the mark of "deprecated" on place=farm
and wrote a page with an easy to understand (I hope) definition of
what a farm can be different from isolated dwelling
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dfarm

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 7:57 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
<dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2010/5/21 Aun Johnsen <li...@gimnechiske.org>:
>> Implying a distance of isolation for isolated dwelling would imply
>> that there should be a tagged for unisolated_dwelling?
>
>
> unisolated dwellings is the rest of the inhabited places (village, town..).
>
>
>> A grend
>> generally consists of 4 to 20 farms, for example where I grew up, the
>> grend Høgset, which is made up of the farms Skoåkrå, Iverstua,
>
>
> this is probably a hamlet.
>
>
>> Oppistua, Røysan, Nessa and Langnessa. Each of these farms is again
>> one to three residencial buildings plus farm buildings such as barn,
>> heyloft, equipment garrages, etc. ...
>
>
> probably here place=farm could maybe used (if you define it like
> this), they are not isolated dwellings as they are part of a hamlet.
>
>>>> How to tag Brazillian Fazendas, they are farms that can consits of as
>>>> many as 20 buildings, with living barracks for season workers and
>>>> factory like buildings for pre-processing of their harvests.
>>>
>>>> For the first I would use place=farm on the named farms, making them
>>>> part of place=hamlet
>
>
> +1, for me that's fine. All good examples for local use of place=farm
> I would not have thought of. Maybe you could also go for a Key-name
> that depicts that it is a sub-part of an hamlet (or use an relation
> for this).
>
>
>> This is a good reason to keep the farm tag and not deprecate it.
>
>
> OK, but there should be some definitions/examples. Still you will find
> isolated dwellings as well in your country I suppose.
>
>
> cheers,
> Martin
>

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