Apollinaris Schoell schrieb:
On 17 Jul 2010, at 2:05 , Heiko Jacobs wrote:
I cannot accept a process with loss of data.
If there is a loss of data I will leave OSM.

there is no loss of data! It has always been said that the
old data will remain available under the old license.

This "last-CC-planet.osm" will have NO worth for further work
in OSM, because of the data in it is "dirty".
The data is lost for the ODBL-OSM, this OSM including active mapper
community. A fork is also NO solution.

The only possibility to avoid loss of data (if process proposed isn't
changed because of this discussions, I'm still hoping for this ...)
is to (ab)use the licence change question as a vote, hoping that
reaching the critical mass will fail. Using this vote it might be easyer
because they want a really high of percentage of user accepting new licence.
If my vote failed and licence is changing with loss of data,
I leave the project including my data, because of combination of
vote and licence change of my data …

strategic voting is really wrong and stupid.
> playing this game by many will put the project on more risk for nothing.

I don't want to play this game.
But at now it is the only possibility to "vote" also against the
process of licence change

If you don't like the process of how data is converted what is
> considered minor edits and can still be relicensed without loss …
> then better raise your voice there.

I rais my voice as you can read here.
If you know a better place: give a pointer to it.

absolutely agree we need to work on a smooth process to minimize loss.

I still hope for zero loss

Mueck


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