Am 16.11.2010 23:17, schrieb Serge Wroclawski:
If you honestly feel this way, explain in clear steps what the OSMF
could do to "work with dissenters" that doesn't include stopping the
current process of migrating to a new license.
Not particularly focussed on the dissenters of the new license, I miss a clear migration strategy, documented in more detail than in one of many points in an FAQ.
1) As ODBL-Supporter: What can I do to support the process?
a) Should I avoid using old data of dissenters, if I can choose to re-draw the objects out of traces or other sources? b) Should I start to re-map data of other mappers to increase the ODBL-Compliant data in the database? 2) If I sometimes in the past helped to import data from sources not ODBL-compliant - how can I now or in the future progress of the license change split up my contributions to support ODBL without breaking the license of these imports? 3) What are the concrete rules for migration: Which objects can be migrated? Which can not? How to decide that? Here everything I hered from the LWG is "we will see", "we don't know exactly", "perhaps..." and so on. Well - imports are discussed in more detail; but an unsolved issue as far as I can see is the migration of license-mixed objects in the database (ODBL-contributors and non-odbl-contributors).

I think, the only way to work with the dissenters is to defeat their arguments with good counter arguments and facts: - Where is the visual proof that ODBL won't hurt? The first I know in this area is the map provided some weeks ago - by someone not part of or connected to the LWG - Why I'm not able to formally accept my data published as PD including an API-Proposal to get PD-only-maps? - a license compliant to ODBL as well as CC-BY-SA from contributor side.

Of course a faster migration would have been fine - but okay, that chance is gone.
But: We should speed up the migration as fast as possible.
Perhaps it's not necessary to migrate everything in one step; but it should be possible for the pro-odbl-mappers to contribute as early as possible in a way, that these contributions are save in an ODBL licensed OSM.

regards
Peter

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