On 03. 04. 11 12:46, Elizabeth Dodd wrote:
On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 12:03:16 +0200
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer<dieterdre...@gmail.com>  wrote:

2011/4/3 Elizabeth Dodd<ed...@billiau.net>

While I'm not in the habit of collecting information from Google
StreetView, it is fair to say that if I go to the public library
and in the thousands of volumes there I find one with the
assistance of the old card catalogue and the Dewey assignment of
books, then no one is concerned about my use of the library
database to find my book.


because they consent the use of the database to find books. Also
Google Streetview consents the use of their database, but they have
ToS associated with that use, and if you use their db, you agree to
be subject to their ToS.
But is that legally binding?
Click Through licence agreements are not binding everywhere, so
actually, I don't agree to be subject to their ToS.




The Google StreetView database isn't in Europe, it doesn't have any
special conditions attached to its use,


it has. At least if there aren't for Streetview in particular, the
ones of Googlemaps in general do apply.


You of course think like an engineer, and I don't.
You know quite well that I meant that there was no European Database
Rights attached to the database, and you deliberately ignore that to
strike what you believe will be a killer blow.

What you state might be true under European law, but it doesn't work
where I am. I can do as Pieren states, and that is interpret
information I see in those photographs and reuse the information I
interpret. There's no special account here of the click-through licence
(mainly because the contract is one-sided and non-negotiable), and the
database has no particular protection in the law.

I still would rather take my own photographs.

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And why not just be fair? Does Google agrees OSM uses Streetview to map or not? If they do, just wait for a formal agreement. If they don't, take your own camera.
Yves

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