On 2011-06-16 13:55, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
Andreas Perstinger wrote:
 On 2011-06-15 04:01, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
 As far as I know, I have probably contributed data in the following
 circumstances:
 *Mapper A who has not accepted the change to ODbL drew two intersecting
 roads.
 *I note in person that there is a recently-added island-separated
 right-turn lane, and I add it (way B) based on the ways added by A and a
 rough estimate of its size.
 Now I am the only contributor in the history of way B and all of its
 nodes. Yet their locations are based on cc-by-sa data, and cannot be
 distributed under ODbL.

 Why should way B be based on way A? You have been there, noticed the new
 way and added it.

Added it *based on existing data*. For simplicity, take the beginning of the
way. This is a new node created by me, but lies along an existing way, and
is thus related linearly to two existing nodes. We call this a derivative
work.

How did you noticed that there is a right-way turn lane? Probably not by looking on the OSM map because then it would have been already there. So you have another source (local knowledge, bing, ...) from which you got the location of this way -> you derived the information from that source.

You could argue that without looking on the OSM map you wouldn't have noticed the missing way and therefore this information ("the right-turn lane is missing") is derived from a ccbysa source. But then the whole licence change can't work because as I said before, every single edit after the first node is based on this node (a ccbysa one).

I doubt that.

Bye, Andreas

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