Rather than comment on the id stability thread, I though it better to turn the question around ...

In my own data trail, an ID *IS* unique, and is directly linked to the piece of data it relates to. If I change the data then the version number goes up. If I delete the data, then the ID number remains since it identifies the HISTORY relating to that item. The idea that someone is going to 'reuse' id's because they are no being used raises alarm bells. I thought we had history relating to every element nowadays, so how do you know what the history relates to if you reuse the ID? Also the idea of 'renumbering' everything is equally alarming, given that every old changeset would have to be updated?

If we are running out of ID's, then a switch to 64 bit is an urgent requirement simply to prevent the existing data and history trail from being corrupted.

Now having said all that ... USING the internal ID for external purposes, while potentially practical, is not the most sensible way forward as has been highlighted in several ways. I'm probably in agreement on a 'link server' approach, but I think that there are a number of areas where additional 'ID's need to be stored in the database and managed in parallel. Postcodes, bus/tramstop id's, Airport codes, telephone area codes, and so on. We had a little discussion on parallel databases, and that slots in with the 'link server', but I think that in order to make ANY parallel database system work, then the core ID's have to be stable and consistent, even if they do return 'deleted' ... at which point on needs to be able to ask 'why' and possibly roll back a change that should not have happened? If a item has history then it's ID can't be reused.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/<xxx>/history simply has to be consistent? Then what may be missing IS a tag for 'split_from' or 'merged_with' but the linked ID's must also be consistent?

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