I almost hesitate to jump in, but I'd like to give the perspective from 
Cloudmade that I think is probably mirrored in skobbler.

In Cloudmade staff are passionate about OSM and mapping.  Many of the staff 
wanted to join OSMF 2 years ago and we encouraged that.  And we got the same 
reaction from some parts of the community.

However, I can clearly state that my team (and most of them were my team) would 
have told me to f#%k off if I even tried to tell them how to map, hack or vote. 
 

The employees of Cloudmade are as diverse a set of mappers as any other group 
of OSM members and it was down right rude at that time to view them as 
corporate surrogates being directed to some sinister goal.  They may share some 
common concerns but so do lots of other collections of people in OSM.

In short I think the same thing is happening to the individuals at skobbler who 
are probably wondering now (like my guys did in the past) why the hell did I 
bother getting involved?

My $0.02 only.

Jim Brown
CTO - CloudMade
j...@cloudmade.com

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On 25 Aug 2011, at 05:34, "John Smith" <deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 25 August 2011 22:26, Ed Avis <e...@waniasset.com> wrote:
>> Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist <at> gmail.com> writes:
>> 
>>> This was completely easy in the past, but is it realistic to keep OSMF
>>> "relatively unimportant" if it is rights holder for all the data?
>> 
>> It might be better to spin off a separate organization which is the rights
>> holder, separate from the less contentious OSMF functions like providing 
>> funding
>> to keep the servers running or organizing SoTM.
> 
> Wouldn't spreading resources thinner only make it easier for someone
> with enough money and other resources to game the system?
> 
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