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From: 80n [80n...@gmail.com]
Sent: 26 August 2011 07:25
To: Barnett, Phillip
Cc: Jim Brown; talk@openstreetmap.org; Ed Avis
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Membership applications from Skobbler 
employees



On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:13 AM, Barnett, Phillip 
<phillip.barn...@itn.co.uk<mailto:phillip.barn...@itn.co.uk>> wrote:

>The OSMF had an obligation, under the UK data protection laws, to preserve the 
>confidentiality of >personal information.  It would have been a breach of 
>confidence to make it public at the time.


Not so.

UK Data Protection laws exist to safeguard 'personal' data. Saying that ' there 
has been a large number of applications for OSMF membership by people who 
appear to be employees of Apple ' for instance, is perfectly in order - you are 
not releasing any 'personal data' UNLESS you also released, say, email 
addresses and names of the people, which can personally identify them, perhaps 
to back up your assertion.

>Saying 'a large number of applications from CloudMade' would have been 
>effectively the same as >naming the members.  You'd only need to look 
>here>http://web.archive.org/web/20090524055747/http://cloudmade.com/team to 
>have a pretty good idea >of who was a member.

Well, this is a sideshow to the main debate, but you are still not revealing 
personal data, merely a fact about some or all members of a group. You are 
clear to do this under the UK Data Protection Act. I can say '"Most of the 
voting population of the UK live in this country" and you can cross-refer to 
the UK electoral register, for names and addresses, but that doesn't mean I've 
released the personal details of 40 million people!

In this instance, Cloudmade were releasing personal data. But since they're not 
under UK law,  the fact that they released their own employees names and faces 
and email addresses is presumably between them, their employees, and the US 
government.


HTH
Phillip
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