Hello,
my last words on this for now :

for osm to be useful it needs two things :
1. local dedicated mappers who have local knowlege who feel comfortable and
motivated to continue mapping.
2. accurate maps that reflect the names of places there, signs you can see.

if you continue to rename everything into Српска ћирилица,
you are going to lose both. I can tell you that the team in kosovo is very
happy the way it was, and if you start to have a small minority of serbs
renaming the prishtina to Приштина you are going to put into jeopardy the
progress we have made.

Allowing people in kosovo to feel free after so many people, friends and
family where murdered see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_the_Kosovo_War is
important.

If you force the people there to read ћирилица they will just hate you and
your map.

thanks,
mike

On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 12:15 PM, pec...@gmail.com <pec...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2012. gada 1. aprīlis 13:01 Павел Фомин <pavel...@yandex.ru> rakstīja:
> > 01.04.2012, 12:16, "Mike Dupont" <jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com>:
> >
> > I think we agreed here on the "on the ground rule", kosovo is on the
> ground
> > the republic of kosovo and not serbia.
> > [...]
> > belgrad is not in fact control of kosovo, kosovo is its own country.
> >
> >
> > Arrrgh. We should have rules on mapping disputed areas and partially
> > recognised countries. Is OSM showing the internationally accepted
> situation
> > or is it taking into account every single front line?
>
> Really? What about South Osettia? I have hard time to think that
> anybody in Russia would "dispute" that, but it's recognized only by
> few countries. And I bet there's lot of Georgians who would like to
> see it mapped as part of Georgia. But while I fully understand them I
> recognize that South Osettia currently is de facto independent from
> Georgia.
>
> No hard feelings, but what you are pushing is politics. You don't like
> what you see in the map, fine. But that doesn't change anything. Fact
> is a fact. Kosovo is de facto country and while it's not fully
> recognized internationally, chances of that happening is much closer
> than any other current "disputed regions". When by some actions it
> happens to be reunited by Serbia - let's map it then accordingly. But
> while it isn't, is just pushing your own agenda and destroying any joy
> for mapping.
>
> I really don't like posting this, I want to avoid any political
> posturing these days, but please keep such disputes out of this. Map
> accordingly to the facts, not historical or "what feels right" basis.
> Please.
>
> Respectfully,
> Peteris.
>
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