Tom MacWright wrote:
 >  I don't have to live with someone else's preferences.

On the internet, you have been. For years now, every single day.

No - If I don't like something I don't use it ... that includes Google!

 > Everybody is off making a better 'widget' for their pet project and nobody is
looking at the problem as a whole?

You mean in OSM? Look at how much push-back we get on something like Map-UI -
tens of angry comments about how X changed. Now imagine a much larger redesign.

There has be complaints about not publishing things or it being discussed on other lists. In reality some of these changes should have been discussed on the leaflet list? It's their changes that are being pushed on us? So a proper debate on opening up the field to provide access to tools tailored for their target audience seems logical. The 'slippy map' is only addressing a small user area, and better publication of the alternatives would seem sensible. Perhaps we ACTUALLY need a map style selector on the front page rather than a single link to a particular map tool?

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