On Friday 14 March 2014, Florian Lohoff wrote: > [...] > > Today maintaining the Linux Kernel or OSM without a HUGE community is > a lost fight so there is nothing to gain by taking this data _from_ > the community. Those who do this are the ones to loose, not the ones > giving away their code/data.
Actually the Linux kernel is a good example how big companies abuse free open products. Most famous example is of course Google with Android which circumvents the weak GPLv2 share-alike provisions and contradicts the spirit of the GPL, namely to ensure the right to freely study, modify and redistribute software by locked hardware and closed source modules. But there are many other examples of closed linux systems (like routers, nas, entertainment) that maybe release an alibi source package but without practical means to acutually make modifications. > IMHO Share Alike is proposed by those full of fear. It seems to me it is fairly damaging for the aim of abolishing share-alike to assume its proponents are driven by fear. Unless you try to convince people through arguments you have little chance in changing their opinion. Even if you manage to create a non share-alike, 'more free' OSM this will inevitably fail unless you convince the vast majority of the mappers and you cannot do that by telling them to drop their fear and relax. Keep in mind what you are essentially asking mappers here is to waive their right to freely use improvements others make to their mapping work (which is - as Simon pointed out - where share-alike kicks in). You would need good arguments for that i think and i have not heard them to this point. Note i do not have a clear position on the whole matter - as a data user i see clear disadvantages of share-alike and have to deal with them but i see no perspective to convince me, the mapper, to settle without it just because it would be more convenient/more profitable for me, the data user... ;-) -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
