> Is there something that you've complained about that the DWG hasn't acted > upon, because I haven't seen any mail from you to the DWG.
There was one years ago, (see this email to the d...@openstreetmap.org [0] which was also cc'ed to talk and talk-ph), we didn't get a reply from the DWG. Although for this case, local mappers decided to revert the contributions. As I said this was years ago, the process maybe faster now. > I would wager a bet that if you can't do it informally, you are going to have a large problem trying to put a working formal organisation in place. I disagree, I'm proud of our local community we are small but very much involved with local mapping and community building efforts. What I am proposing is for us to handle local situations. In most cases, we where able to resolve things internally/locally. As Richard posted in the talk-us list, "assume good faith" is always our mantra. Before taking any action (i.e. revertions), we do conduct investigations and discussions with other active mappers. But there are rare ocassions where additional restrictions (i.e temporary ban) need to be enforced to prevent further damage. For international disputes, I think the main DWG should handle this. > I suggest that you consider volunteering for the DWG, and have one or more of your trusted local mappers do the same. Would the DWG consider one member from the PH community to be a DWG member and will the main person to look into PH related reports? [0] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2010-February/048358.html On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch> wrote: > As Richard pointed out in his post, there is already an "in place" > practice of handling issues locally and only a small number of things > get escalated to the level of the DWG. > > Naturally how good this works depends on the strength of the local > community, but I would wager a bet that if you can't do it informally, > you are going to have a large problem trying to put a working formal > organisation in place. > > What would help is more support, for the cases that percolate up to the > DWG, to overcome language and cultural boundaries. > > Simon > > > > Am 15.04.2014 13:11, schrieb Ervin Malicdem: >> Assigning local DWGs gets the job done faster in a local level as they >> can easily find out if the edits are vandalized due to first-hand >> knowledge of the data; and immediate lock out of the account can help >> control additional vandalized edits. And this can be performed faster >> as the local DWG is on the same time zone. >> >> And having a global DWG as an escalation point would make a "final" >> decision in case there is a need for it. If there is a need for >> arbitration, this setup would be beneficial and would foster transparency. >> >> Though most of the time, these vandals would never insist for their >> edits as most of the time they are just trolling around and escalation >> would most likely never happen. >> >> Local DWGs, IMHO are beneficial for faster response. >> >> Ervin M. >> *Schadow1 Expeditions* - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own >> motherland. >> http://www.s1expeditions.com >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Richard Weait <rich...@weait.com >> <mailto:rich...@weait.com>> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:57 AM, maning sambale >> <emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com <mailto:emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > Dear everyone, >> > >> > This is a thorny issue bit will ask anyway. ;) >> > >> > Not very often, but we do encounter questionable contributions. >> > Normally, local mappers would contact the specific contributor to >> > explain and provide guidance. But in some cases, these messages were >> > ignored and the contributor continues to do questionable edits. >> > >> > There is a DWG [0] to resolve such issue. We do understand that DWG >> > members are volunteers like most of us and local issues might not get >> > attention immediately. I would like to discuss the possibility for >> > our local chapter/community to form our own sort of DWG where we can >> > address local concerns/disputes. >> > >> > We have a few active and trusted volunteers who can discuss and >> > resolve such issues. But in rare occasions we think we should have >> > the rights to do "temporary blocks" within our local areas. >> >> Dear Maning, >> >> I wrote a post on talk-us@ that addressed some of the issues you >> mention. It was posted in November 2013, and the link in the archives >> is >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2013-November/012171.html >> >> It seems that you are doing the right things. You suggest in your >> email as I suggested in my post, and as others have elsewhere, that >> local mappers reach out to each other to discuss challenging behaviour >> and come to understanding and consensus where possible. Where and >> when that effort falls short, reach out to the DWG for further >> assistance. >> >> Do follow up with d...@osmfoundation.org >> <mailto:d...@osmfoundation.org>, if you haven't done so >> already. From Serge's recent post, it seems that they aren't >> deliberately ignoring you. :-) >> >> I suggest that you consider volunteering for the DWG, and have one or >> more of your trusted local mappers do the same. it doesn't make sense >> to me, to have a Local DWG. There is no Local Database, only the one >> global database. Unnecessary duplication of effort by creating a >> second and subservient dwg seems a poor option compared to >> participating in an existing dwg. >> >> Volunteers acting in their role as DWG members will strive to do so >> while maintaining a careful balance in many ways. One form of balance >> they must seek is to apply sufficient local knowledge, and >> understanding of local cultural and other contexts, but not to be so >> entwined in local context as to be inappropriately biased. They must >> strive to seek solutions that consider the global and local context, >> each in appropriate measure, as Simon indicated in his post. >> >> best regards and happy mapping, >> >> Richard >> >> _______________________________________________ >> talk mailing list >> talk@openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> talk mailing list >> talk@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >> > > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > -- cheers, maning ------------------------------------------------------ "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ ------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
