Oleksly,

>As for the inclusion, - the industry provides nowadays a large choice of
>alcohol-free beer, wine, sparkling wine [1]. And even alcohol-free
>vodka, alcohol-free whiskey, tequila, brandy, etc. [2].

I don't think we should be relying on the alcohol producers to be providing
us with opportunities for inclusion. You're basically saying "hide the fact
that you don't drink alcohol" whereas the message I got from the discussion
was "we need to provide social events that don't revolve around (at least
some people) drinking alcohol".

>If one drinks cola or orange juice at a social event, people start to
>ask questions

You're going to the wrong social events.

Cheers, Joseph




On 5 November 2014 10:29, Oleksiy Muzalyev <oleksiy.muzal...@bluewin.ch>
wrote:

> Hi Kathleen,
>
> OK. No more statistical data in this topic (just wanted to make a point
> that drinking is present in the traditional culture of many countries).
>
> As for the inclusion, - the industry provides nowadays a large choice of
> alcohol-free beer, wine, sparkling wine [1]. And even alcohol-free
> vodka, alcohol-free whiskey, tequila, brandy, etc. [2].
>
> If one drinks cola or orange juice at a social event, people start to
> ask questions, "Why you do not drink but your friends do." But if one
> drinks alcohol free-beer or alcohol-free wine nobody even notices
> (speaking from experience). Nobody usually cares to read on the label of
> a bottle what percent of alcohol it contains. And the bottle itself
> looks exactly like a bottle of a traditional beer, wine, etc.
>
> [1] http://www.alcoholfree.co.uk/
> [2] http://shop.arkaybeverages.com/8-alcohol-free-vodka
>
> brgds
> Oleksiy
>
> On 04.11.2014 18:12, Kathleen Danielson wrote:
> > Do you think that we could take the conversation on alcohol
> > consumption statistics to a different forum? I don't think that's
> > adding value to our discussion of making sure that we aren't excluding
> > folks who prefer not to drink.
>
>
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