Hi Carlos Let me quickly comment on your points on Mapbox Vector Tiles (MVT): * Ad 2. OpenMapTiles: That's on one hand a docker image to produce MVT with an own data schema based on Mapnik generator. You can download pre-generated - but possibly old - vector tiles. And you can also get a commercial API access to fresh tiles from OpenMaptiles similar to Mapbox. * Ad 3. T-rex: This is mainly a generator based on PostGIS/PostgreSQL and GDAL/OGR which includes a tile server . The server is a rather simple http server which returns a metadata file (TileJSON) and serves vector tiles from a database or a file (e.g. mbtiles). 4. Ad: Maputnik: Web based style editor for Mapbox GL JS. Can be used for Mapbox styles but also for other vector tiles based on Mapbox GL JS, like OpenMapTiles (see https://openmaptiles.org/docs/) or MB vector tiles generated by T-rex (see http://t-rex.tileserver.ch/doc/ ).
Regarding other MVT generators and tools I assume you found already https://github.com/mapbox/awesome-vector-tiles . :Stefan 2017-10-22 22:46 GMT+02:00 Carlos Cámara <carlos.cam...@gmail.com>: > Thanks for your quick response, John. > > You're right that my requirements are quite basic. That's because I am not > sure about the basics and I prefer going step-by-step (I'm sure my questions > will be more specific the more I know about the process). My idea was to > create a map (raster or vector, don't know yet) that would display OSM data > that is not displayed by current renders. I would skip anything related to > smartphones, offline use or routing (although I would love to expore routing > in the future), because it is too complex for me at this time. > > I think I understand some of the basics: yes, I understand that I need a > collection of tiles that need to be stored and served somewhere and that the > requirements will vary enormously from zoom level and region (you made a > good point in your email saying that I should start small and see the > requirements and then scale it). I understand that in order to generate > those tiles I need to create a style (don't know how -I've only seen two > options here: either using mapnik styles or mapbox gl). But I am completely > lost when it comes to specific tools to achieve those tasks. > > So far I've discovered the following ones: > > Mapnik: allows creating styles and serving tiles. > OpenMapTiles: aparently is a tile server and allows creating custom styles. > Seems to me that it could be a replacement for Mapnik. > T-rex: a tile server. I think it would require to generate tiles using > another service/tool. > Maputnik: style editor for mapbox. I understand that resulting maps can only > be used within a mapbox account. > MAperitive: I have just discovered it thanks to you. AFAIK is a desktop > software that generates custom maps for offline use. If that would be true, > it's not what I am looking for. > > Hope is clearer now. > > Thanks again! > > > Carlos Cámara > http://carloscamara.es > > 2017-10-22 21:57 GMT+02:00 john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com>: >> >> Basically you need a collection of tiles. The load on the server will >> depend on the number of concurrent users and how many tiles they download. >> >> Initially I'd go with a small test server to prove the concept. >> >> Maperitive runs under Windows and gives you a lot of flexibility. You >> should be able to generate tiles fairly easily. There is a mailing list for >> support. >> >> Mapbox is commercial but having said that they have provided a lot of very >> valuable support to a nearby government agency and they can put all the bits >> together for you. >> >> Do you want to provide routing and searching capabilities? Or is a raster >> map enough? A raster map is much like a printed one. Looks nice. >> >> Do your end users have smartphones? Will they want to use the maps >> offline? If so look at OMand. >> >> I'm not seeing your requirements at the moment and the constraints. Just >> how you want to build it and I think you need to step back and just confirm >> them. >> >> Cheerio John >> >> On 22 Oct 2017 1:51 pm, "Carlos Cámara" <carlos.cam...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I would like to create a custom map for online use that loads OSM data but >> displays it in different ways as the standard, cyclemap, transport... >> layers. >> >> Some background: What I think I know so far >> >> I have made some research and, although I have to admit that I am still >> quite confused, I have come to the conclusion that the process outline may >> be the one that follows (with many variations): >> >> Get the data. AFAIK, data can be downloaded either partially or globally >> from several sources, like Planet OSM or OpenMaptiles. If I'm not wrong, >> data can be accessed online by querying it or using services like Mapbox >> (see below) (correct me if I'm wrong). >> Style the map. Our data has to be styled according to our needs. Again, if >> I'm not wrong, there are to different (not sure if they are excluding or >> not) ways to do it: either using Mapnik or Mapbox GL (more on this below). >> In case that we opt for Mapnik we should create a Mapnik style (a XML file >> that AFAIK has to be manually edited and seems to be quite cumbersome for >> complex settings) and, in case we opt for mapbox we can use either Tilemill >> or the FLOSS editor Maputnik. >> Render the map in order to convert the data and styles into an appealing >> map. This map can either be a raster map (which will generate lots of tiles >> and will require the next step: tileserver) or a vector map (which don't >> understand how it works other than inside mapbox). Don't know how to do >> this. I assume that in case that we opt for mapnik we need to have it >> installed in our server and execute a command. In case of Mapbox I assume we >> need an account on their service. I have also found this exhaustive list of >> rendering options on OSM's wiki, but haven't assimilated all that >> information yet. >> Serving tiles: the myriad of raster tiles that have been generated in the >> previous step need to publicly available. In order to achieve that a >> tileserver is needed. AFAIK, there are several options here, being Mapnik, >> T-rex or OpenMapTiles some of them. All of them require a custom server in >> which they need to be installed. I'm assuming that this server requires a >> lot of RAM, CPU and Disk space, but I don't have an idea of how much is "a >> lot" (I assume it will vary "a lot" depending on the cover area and zoom >> level, but do not have the slight idea not even for the whole world at city >> level zoom or just one city area). >> >> Conclusion: >> >> Provided that everything I wrote above is true, I see three excluding >> options: >> >> Mapnik covers steps #2-#4 and needs a custom server to be installed at and >> to host all the data (both, OSM data and generated tiles). >> OpenMapTiles cover steps #1-#4. Needs a custom server to be installed at >> and to host all the data. Apparently seems easier to setup and run that >> Mapnik. >> Mapbox covers steps #1-#3, since #4 is not needed, being that are vector >> layers. Does not require any webserver but requires a paid account. Don't >> know if it means that using Mapbox GL you are locked in Mapbox plattform. >> >> Don't know how does t-rex fit on this equation. >> >> Does that make sense? Do you have some recommendations in how to achieve a >> custom map? >> >> At this point I feel quite confused, since despite things start to make >> sense to me, I have the feeling that I am missing some pieces of this >> complex puzzle. Not to mention that I'm not sure if I am right, though. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> Carlos Cámara >> http://carloscamara.es >> >> _______________________________________________ >> talk mailing list >> talk@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
