On 2018-02-14 17:39, Dave F wrote:
I think I have read it correctly.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5408566797

It is easy to determine this shared node is part of the roundabout as
well as the entrance from Wapping & can exit along Commercial, or if
required, continue around the roundabout:
How is this different from, say, two side roads joining a main road at
the same node?,

Because a machine can not determine if you are actually entering the roundabout or not. Technically speaking you are not because you are just touching one node of the roundabout.

Suppose your example with the two side roads, if you were to go from Side Road A to Side Road B via the node that is connected to Main Road A, would you want the router to give you instructions to "enter Main Road A and turn into Side Road B"? No, it gives you directions to "turn into Side Road B". The same at this roundabout, going from Wapping Road to Commercial Road it will tell you to "turn left into Commercial Road" and not to "enter the roundabout and exit at the first exit into Commercial Road". At may be that the road layout is such that you don't enter the roundabout, I don't know but when you do have to enter the roundabout, you have to leave a segment between the entry and exit or the routing instructions will be wrong.

Just connecting to a road on a node does not mean you enter that road. The same at intersections, if you cross a road (connected by a node) you do not enter that road so you do not need instructions for it.

Maarten

On 14/02/2018 16:17, Maarten Deen wrote:
On 2018-02-14 15:53, Dave F wrote:
Hi
Could anyone give me an explanation for this line from
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:junction=roundabout

"Each road has to be connected with the roundabout in a separate
node—that is, between these nodes a segment of the roundabout is
required."

I see no requirement for a separate segment:

     * When a entering road shares a node with a roundabout then the
router knows it's entered that roundabout by reading the tags on the
circular way.
     * Whilst on that node, the router checks to see if there are any
suitable exits. If there are, then it leaves the roundabout.
     * If not, it continues going around until it finds an appropriate
exit.

I'm not sure if you read the requirement right, but this tells mappers not to connect the entry and exit road on the same node. If you were to map it that way, the router will not see that you enter a roundabout and need to exit at the first exit. It will just tell you to go right. It is not (what I think you think) that there needs to be a separate way between entrance and exit, the roundabout can be mapped as one way in total.

Maarten


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