On 25/04/18 19:58, Michael Reichert wrote: > Your proposed redefinition of unisex=yes would change the meaning of > an established and highly used tag. Please invent new tags. This isn't redefining, to quote the wiki unisex=yes means "denotes that access is unrestricted by a person's sex or gender.", which describes a gender neutral toilet! The clue is in "uni-", it means the thing acts like there only one (sex), it doesn't act like there are 2 (sexes).
It's still correct to say "unisex=yes implies male=yes and female=yes" (i.e. males & females can still use the facility). The big question: How do we differentiate between a thing that (a) severs all genders, and (b) one that serves all genders (but segregates people into 2 categories (male & female)). How do we tag "gender neutral" vs "gender segregated"? In common English speech, "unisex" means (a), the wiki implies (a). JOSM developers changed the validator (& suggested auto fix) to align with (a). In common English, a gender segregated toilet is not a "unisex toilet"! So I thought "unisex=yes" meant gender neutral! > Sorry for the stupid question but are there more types of toilets than > the following three? > - male only > - female only > - not assigned to a specific gender Your last case should be split into two common cases: (i) Gender neutral (i.e. non-segregated), everyone sharing, and (ii) male & female segregated. I suggest (& am using): (1) unisex=yes - This is a unisex, gender neutral toilet (2) male=yes female=yes unisex=no - There are (separated) male & female toilet facilities here, no unisex facilities. (3) female=yes male=no unisex=no - Only female toilet facilities here (4) male=yes female=no unisex=no - Only male toilet facilities here and I suggest that if both male & female tags are set, you can presume unisex=no unless unisex is also set (but it's good to set the unisex tag) I'm not sure if there is anywhere that would be: (5) 3 options male, female & unisex (unisex=yes male=yes female=yes) _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
