22. Oct 2018 16:17 by dieterdre...@gmail.com <mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>:


> Am Mo., 22. Okt. 2018 um 15:54 Uhr schrieb Yuri Astrakhan <> 
> yuriastrak...@gmail.com <mailto:yuriastrak...@gmail.com>> >:
>
>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 8:22 AM Mateusz Konieczny <>> 
>> matkoni...@tutanota.com <mailto:matkoni...@tutanota.com>>> > wrote:
>>
>>>           
>>>> I think a country relation should describe how the specific country think 
>>>> of its borders. So if two countries claim the same territory, those two 
>>>> relations will overlap.
>>>
>>> That is absurd and conflict with OSM rule to map what exists. 
>>>
>>>
>> On the contrary, it actually matches OSM rules better than deciding 
>> yourself.  When drawing a city outline, you go to that city's government, 
>> and get the geoshape from them. By extension, if you draw a country, you 
>> should use that country's definition.  If two country's definitions happen 
>> to overlap, we ought to document both.
>
>
> In principle I agree it would be desirable to keep records of "all" claims 
> for a territory, (I can imagine there will be some more rules required, 
> because there are even small groups and individuals claiming authority over 
> territories with very low possibility to be recognized by anyone else, and we 
> might want to exclude those "trolls"). But this should not mean that we do 
> not keep information about who actually controls the territory, and who has 
> claims on it but does not control it. Simply adding a territory to 2 
> countries at the same time can't be the solution.




I am not fundamentally opposed to adding various claims to OSM (though I am not

supporting it either).




But in cases where there is clear who controls given territory main border then 


main administrative boundary should be applied to line of control. 

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