22. Oct 2018 16:59 by colin.sm...@xs4all.nl <mailto:colin.sm...@xs4all.nl>:


>
> On 2018-10-22 16:34, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
>
>>
>> I strongly disagree, we map reality.
>>
>
> There is no one true reality, only perceptions. 
>




There is both a true reality and our biased interpretation of it. But it many

cases it is possible to select criteria, rules, categorizations where bias is 
small and

our interpretation align.




But anyway that is a philosophical claim and that discussion is unlikely to 
lead anything useful.

  


>
> Which reality takes precedence in your mind, may not be the same for 
> everyone. Reality is subjective.
>
> What is the test to apply to decide whether a point is included in country A 
> or country B?
>




In case of Russian/Ukrainian border, as defined by on the ground line of 
control 


"is area controlled by Russian army or Ukrainian army" works quite well, better 
than 


"is this area claimed by Russia" or "is this area claimed by Ukraine"



>
> In the case of disputed borders, there are at least two realities (as 
> perceived by the parties to the dispute) and possibly a third reality as 
> perceived by a number of locals
>




There is one reality and multiple interpretations of it. It is preferable to 
map things so that

interpretations are not different between mappers.

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