There is another version of this. The Maps.me app shows the attribution for a couple of seconds after starting and after that it vanishes and a scale appears in the same position. Of course the Maps.me logo at the lower right corner stays there: https://photos.app.goo.gl/F7yUn4BhvxYiC8YJ7
You can also get to the "attribution" by clicking the Menú button->Ajustes (Configuration)->About MAPS.ME->Copyright. This obviously seems ridiculous. Regards, Julio Costa Zambelli Fundación OpenStreetMap Chile julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl https://www.openstreetmap.cl/ Cel: +56(9)89981083 On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 13:51, Martijn van Exel <m...@rtijn.org> wrote: > Whatever we as a community prefer, let’s not add noise to the discussion > by suggesting that it’s somehow hard to do because of UX requirements (as > Simon points out correctly as well). Here’s Scout on an iPhone SE (75% > fewer pixels than most modern smartphones, let alone desktop browsers): > https://www.flickr.com/gp/rhodes/9558sk. > > Martijn > > On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:35 PM, Richard Fairhurst <rich...@systemed.net> > wrote: > > Hi all, > > In recent years some OSM data consumers and "OSM as a service" providers > have begun to put the credit to OpenStreetMap behind an click-through > 'About', 'Credits', 'Legal' or '(i)' link. Examples: > > https://docs.mapbox.com/help/img/android/android-first-steps-intro.png > https://www.systemed.net/osm/IMG_1846.PNG > > (This should be obvious but I am in no means meaning to pick on Mapbox or > Apple here - as anyone who knows me will testify, I have the utmost respect > both for Mapbox's technical chops, their ability to iterate on a compelling > product and their success in building the biggest mapping platform using > OSM data; and I've been an Apple fanboy since my first Mac IIsi back in, > erk, 1992. They're just the two that sprang to mind, bearing in mind that > as someone that old, these social networks about photos and stuff are way > too modern for me.) > > It should also be said that many providers - the majority - provide > attribution in compliance with our policy at osm.org/copyright, i.e. > showing attribution in the corner of the map, and in many cases generously > going beyond with "Improve this map" pages; and that some providers will do > great things like this much of the time and resort to "(i)" or "About" only > part of the time. > > The policy, introduced with the changeover to the ODbL, says: > > "We require that you use the credit “© OpenStreetMap contributors”... For > a browsable electronic map, the credit should appear in the corner of the > map." > > There then follows an example screenshot of a map of Charlbury (woo) with > a credit in the corner. The OSM Foundation Legal FAQ is pretty much the > same ( > https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Licence_and_Legal_FAQ#Where_to_put_it.3F > ). > > Historically the aim of requiring attribution has been partly to thank > contributors, and partly because it's a virtuous feedback loop. If you see > a map and it's wrong or incomplete, seeing "(c) OpenStreetMap" in the > corner shows you where the data comes from, so you can go and improve it. > That way we get more contributors, the map gets better, it's more valuable > to its consumers, so more people use it, so more people improve it... and > so on. > > The legal rationale is 4.3 in the Open Database Licence ( > https://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/1.0/index.html), and in > particular "if you Publicly Use a Produced Work, You must include a notice > associated with the Produced Work reasonably calculated to make any Person > that uses, views, accesses, interacts with, or is otherwise exposed to the > Produced Work aware that Content was obtained from the Database". The key > phrase is "reasonably calculated" and our view in 2012 was that, since the > major mapping providers (Google, Navteq/Nokia/HERE, TomTom etc.) required > and implemented on-screen attribution, "reasonably" meant that users would > expect a credit to be provided in that way. The OSMF FAQ makes this > explicit: "you should expect to credit OpenStreetMap in the same way and > with the same prominence as would be expected by any other map supplier". > > Full mea culpa: the /copyright page says "should" rather than "must" > purely because I wrote the page, I'm British and I, we, talk like that ( > http://termcoord.eu/2016/08/the-truth-behind-british-impoliteness/ , > especially the "I would suggest" line). It used to say "request" rather > than "require" for the same reason. In retrospect I should have realised > not everyone is British and we should really have hired a lawyer to review > the page. I think that months in the trenches of the licence change had > probably given us trench fever for things like that. Entirely my fault and > I take full responsibility for it (but you know, it's so great not to have > to write 500 monthly mails to legal-talk@ any more). > > So we need to decide what our response is to web/in-app maps that do not > provide attribution in the manner requested by osm.org/copyright. This > response might be: > > a) we are happy for attribution to be behind a credits screen and we will > update our requirements to say so > b) we will informally tolerate attribution being behind a credits screen > but we do not intend to update our requirements > c) we are not happy for attribution to be behind a credits screen and we > will update our requirements to say so > d) we are not happy for attribution to be behind a credits screen and we > will update our requirements to say so, and we will proactively seek out > data consumers that contravene these requirements > e) or many other options... fill in your suggestion here :) > > Ultimately this decision has to come from the community. The rights in OSM > data, as the Contributor Terms makes clear, are held by the contributors. > OSMF is "using and sublicensing" it, under the terms that you grant to > OSMF, but you own the rights. OSMF is not able to license away the rights > of mappers. > > There has been a lot of chatter over recent years about this issue but the > issue has never really broken through. Let's talk about it openly, honestly > and respectfully and get it sorted out for the benefit of both mappers and > data consumers. > > cheers > Richard > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >
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