Am 02.03.2019 um 16:13 schrieb Florian Lohoff: > > In most jurisdications licensing and trade marks will only hold up > when defended or enforced in court. Once you stop doing so you > might loose your protection.
This is nonsense as Mateusz has already pointed out and is not even true for trademarks in that form. Those that have been around a bit longer know that you jump at every chance to re-fight a battle that you long lost (with claims that were not true 7 years ago and are not less wrong now), and really this is a discussion about what the community wants to do going forward about attribution, not about your old grievances. Simon > > So when relicensing the ultimate consequence is that you need to defend > your license - and thats was my first question. Is the OSMF willing > to enforce the license? > > I had my doubts that the ODbL will be enforced against companys who > are not only data consumers but also contributers and sponsors. > > In the end the fear of displease our big sponsors by dragging them > to court is bigger than the annoyance of those consumers not > attributing to us in a form acceptable. > > In the end i see exactly that happing right now. > > And we as mappers, contributers have lost a lot of freedom with the > relicensing - and the gain was marginal. Now we are in the situation > that the big consumers may push us around as they like as the OSMF > is not willing to defend our rights which we passed on to them > with the CT. Just pay some bills of the OSMF, SoTM, OSM Operations > and suddenly you'll be pretty safe against ODbL violations. > > I was disappointed with the relicensing as i didnt see any reason to > do so. And i am disappointed by the paper tiger the OSMF is. > > I am still a big fan of PD/CC0 but taken all the side effects of the > ODbL the least thing i want is that the marginal gains we might have > with this license will be taken serious and be enforced by the OSMF. > > Violations are going on for years now and every couple months somebody > asks for clarification and the outcome is always nil. > > So i fail to see anyone to enforcing the ODbL. So why did we do the > relicensing in the first place? > > Flo > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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