Good Lord!
That has both tunnel & bridge tags on the same object!
This is not what is being discussed here.

DaveF

On 08/06/2020 11:10, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
Am Sa., 6. Juni 2020 um 18:02 Uhr schrieb Dave F via talk <talk@openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org>>:

    Do you have an example?



A simple example for a tunnel (here subway) on a bridge would be this:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/757824513
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pont_Morand


    Whether it's a bridge or tunnel is fairly easily defined by
    determining
    which is taking the load.
    If a tunnel's structure was removed, would whitewater's above it
    collapse? If 'yes' then it's a tunnel.




what I wrote was that - according to some technical definitions - a tunnel must not have something above it, it may be sufficient that it is closed and long enough. I am not sure if we share these definitions in OSM. According to the current wiki, "a tunnel is an underground passage for a road or similar." and also: "tunnel=* is used for roads, railway line, canals etc that run underground (in tunnel <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Tunnel>). "  This doesn't appear to be exhaustive / complete, tunnels could also run underwater, above ground and potentially in the future even in space, no? Many current underwater tunnels are also "underground", as they are often running in a man made structure (embankment like) on the ground or below the water body/river in the ground


Cheers
Martin



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