In the diverse collection of people we have in OSM you will be hard pressed not to offend someone. The views held are very diverse. Traffic_signal or traffic_light tagging us an example of very diverse views. I'm sure someone will be along and give me the correct way to tag shortly.
I hadn't realised the name Kathleen was one that either gender could use and I apologise for making an assumption about the gender of the person using it. Cheerio John On Wed, Dec 9, 2020, 16:00 Clay Smalley <claysmal...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm noticing a pattern here in the replies to this email: > > Only men have replied. This is, unfortunately, par for the course on the > OSM mailing lists. The lack of discussion by non-men is an undeniable fact. > The simplest explanation for this is the systematic institutional hostility > towards women in the OSM community. The replies themselves are the best > evidence of this. > > These men replying have taken it upon themselves to explain to a woman > what constitutes misogyny. News flash: you do not get to decide what > offends other people. If you are a man, misogyny will never happen to you > by definition. If you are a man, you have never been, are not, and will > never be a victim of misogyny. This isn't your area of expertise. Listen to > the experts. > > Some men replying have even mentioned how this draft letter hurts their > feelings. These men need to slow down and consider for a moment that their > temporarily hurt feelings are less important than the safety of women. > Men's feelings are irrelevant to issues where women are victims. > > As far as I know, various OSM-affiliated groups have codes of conduct, but > there isn't one governing these mailing lists. We need to adopt a code of > conduct yesterday. > > -Clay (they/them) > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 2:13 PM Celine Jacquin <cel...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> I hope you are all well >> >> We, several groups, chapters, organizations and individuals, have reacted >> to the conversation in the osm-talk-list ( >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2020-December/085692.html) >> considering that it is an incident symptomatic of the problem we have faced >> for many years in the community, which is one of the greatest obstacles to >> diversity at all levels of OSM. Time to make a real change. >> That is why we have developed a beginning of statement on the desirable >> mechanisms to work solidly on the rules of coexistence and improve >> diversity. >> >> We bring it to your attention and invite anyone who feels represented to >> sign it. Translations are in preparation (any help is welcome): >> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/130JCTX9ve4H4ORXznmIVTpXiN3TX8nRGA8ayuTZ9ECI/edit?usp=sharing >> >> >> On behalf of the signatories >> Best regards >> >> Céline Jacquin >> _______________________________________________ >> talk mailing list >> talk@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >> > _______________________________________________ > osmf-talk mailing list > osmf-t...@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk >
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