I suspect the National Trust of which I happen to be a member is much more centralised and top down than OpenStreetMap which tends to be more bottom up. It is a different culture and the OSM side has evolved over time.
I'd ask you to be nice to us and work with us where possible. The OSM volunteers can be very useful in filling in details on the maps. The more experienced ones are very good. New ones involved in a mapathon depend on who is running it. Rose worked at one of the properties for a while and whilst she spoke four languages and could get by in a few more she was surprised by the number of different languages spoken by the visitors. OSMAND is based on OSM and currently is available in 45 different languages. The data is the normal internal OSM database and both the interface and content can be displayed in the language of choice. Names can be tagged in other languages, for example name:fr=Londres This has been particularly useful locally when dealing with official languages and I seem to recall the National Trust owns a few in Wales. I suspect there can be a lot of mutual benefit if the two organisations can work together. Cheerio John On Sun, Apr 2, 2023, 18:24 Ragone, Olivia via talk <talk@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Thank you for providing feedback on some of the edits made by National > Trust staff as part of our organised editing activity, on the > representation of paths. We’d like to apologise that it has taken some time > to provide a response. We are always open to constructive feedback that > helps us to add value to OSM for the benefit of all. > > > > The aim of the National Trust’s organised editing activity is to capture > and accurately tag the access rights of all paths on or near National Trust > managed land. In doing so, we hope to use it as the basis for enhancing > access and the management of paths, to improve visitor experience. > > > > We are trying to be consistent in how ways are tagged / represented in > OpenStreetMap. A standard schema and internally developed guidance are > being utilised to help map commonly occurring scenarios. This schema can be > found on the OSM Wiki page (link). We currently have 5 staff members > conducting remote mapping sessions with local rangers to gain their > on-the-ground insight. We believe that working with the on-the-ground staff > provides our best available source of local knowledge, but we acknowledge > there may be situations where there are differing opinions on path > representation. The Trust invite feedback from OSM mappers, but it may take > some time to review each situation. > > > > In the time available, we are focusing on the existence of the path (ie. > location and connectivity) and the legal right (ie. access tags). In the > future, we hope to look at other attributes to represent the > characteristics of the path. Following the initial data capture, we plan to > hand over OSM updates to the ranger teams; we are currently refining the > guidance material to support this. Feedback from the OSM community to help > ensure we are providing appropriate guidance is welcome. > > > > We tend to use a standard changeset comment as it would be very difficult > to capture details of every change. However, since receiving feedback on > the Talk-GB mailing list, we have amended our standard comment to be more > representative of the type of changes that have been made on individual > properties. As part of the process, we have a monitoring tool that looks at > the weekly changes to paths in OSM on land managed by the National Trust. > This could be made publicly available as an Esri Open Data WMS if it would > provide further transparency. We accept in the time that we have, > occasional errors will be made. 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