Thanks I will try this out. In the meantime I have managed to install B Edit, after first temporarily turning the clock back a year. Why this works is a bit of a mystery but I picked up this tip from a web search. Text files opened via file Manager will open automatically in B Edit, but again access to menu commands in b Edit is extremely limited. On the plus side as B edit opens talks starts to read all the document in say all mode, and will scroll to the document end. You can navigate by line and the say all command works again if you pause reading at any time to read by line . In this respect it is better than Quick Office which, on my phone, does not allow a say all command. The say all command appears to only read a screen at a time. In B Edit I have learnt that you can exit the document by pressing the back (2 key in the text window at any time. However you cannot exit the document in this way once you are in the save as window which appears if the document is modified. I cannot find a way of ignoring any modifications you have made. The only way out is to resave the file to clear the save as window. )
If you want to save a file then pushing the select button anywhere in the document appears to bring up the save as menu. There are loads of other features such as bookmarking etc but I have not found a way of using them yet. Apparently some key shortcuts using the dial key are available but I cannot find any documentation for B edit yet. Regards David Griffith -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, 11 September 2010 20:39 To: 'Talks Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Talks] Quick Office Another option for small text files is Light Notepad from http://www.petnetti.net/lightnotepad/indexE.shtml. -- Christopher [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 11:15 AM To: Talks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Talks] Quick Office Oh well David that is unfortunate and I hate being caught out myself after the event. Now you are a new comer to Talks which surprises me a little as I have benefited from very valuable information from you on other lists so surprised that you are only now coming to Talks screen reader. Now I've been using Talks for about 2 years and have been following when new releases/updates occur. You would have known from Talks 4 about Quick Office and we were all pleased that Talks was then making the reading of Word documents available at least!!! At that time it was said in the release notes that Talks would not read from within the Quick Office or maybe I stand corrected but I knew it was something I was aware of at that time. Then there was the untimely death of one of the Talks developers back last Easter or May time, I think it was April. A very sad loss to the Talks community but the good work has continued thankfully. May I suggest that you consider Ped or Bread for your text files. Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" <[email protected]> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] Quick Office > Thanks for this information Elenore. > I am a bit annoyed with Nuance. > > I think the following statement on the Nuance talks page is misleading. > Especially as it was after reading this text that I decided to purchase > Quick Office. > Beginning of quote > > NEW! TALKS&ZOOMS now support reading and even editing word documents, for > instance, e-mail attachments, in Quick Word. QuickWord is a part of > QuickOffice, and its view-only version is pre-installed on most handsets, > while the version that allows to edit text is pre-installed on the Nokia > E-Series handsets, or can be purchased otherwise. > End of quote > There is no warning anywhere that Talks will only partly support the > reading > of menus in quick Office and will fail to allow file navigation within > quick > office. If for example you are trying to achieve the reading of a text > file > in quick office this seems impossible with talks present support. > > I think this is a misleading advert and I will raise this in the first > place > with sight and sound who sold the talks software to me. > > > Regards > > David Griffith > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On > Behalf Of Eleanor Burke > Sent: Saturday, 11 September 2010 14:02 > To: Talks Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Talks] Quick Office > > Well David you are partly there. No Talks will not access your files > using > speech via Quick Office. Put the files in a folder on the Mass Memory and > then go to them there and open them from there. For example. I have a > folder called Law and in that folder I have my notes which I transferred > from the computer which are written in Word. I then go to that folder via > file manager and locate a file and open it. Do remember that you have > then > to go to options and edit in order to read through the document. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Griffith" <[email protected]> > To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 12:13 PM > Subject: [Talks] Quick Office > > >> Having failed in an attempt to successfully install, or use, 4 text >> editors >> including T Edit and B edit I today purchased Quick Office >> >> This installed fine but I am experiencing major difficulties in opening >> files. >> >> If I select options open I can navigate down to the phone's mass memory >> but >> from there on talks does not read any file paths. >> By experimenting I find that by pushing right Talks will announce AD >> Films >> which is the first folder on the phone's mass memory . However I cannot >> get >> Talks to announce the other folders as I move down. >> Continuing to push right will simply launch one of the films in this >> folder >> without announcing the name of the file. >> >> Leaving quick office and Using file manager , I can navigate fine to the >> text files I need to open. The problem is that opening them here does >> not >> open then into quick office. >> >> Is there a way of making quick office accessible with Talks or is there a >> way of forcing file Manager to open txt files in Quick Office? >> I tried a utility called file Associate but again it was not compatible >> with >> the N86. >> >> >> Regards >> >> David Griffith >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >> signature >> database 5441 (20100910) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talks mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >> >> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >> and >> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > > _______________________________________________ > Talks mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > and > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature > database 5442 (20100911) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature > database 5442 (20100911) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Talks mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > and > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list [email protected] http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list [email protected] http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5443 (20100911) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5443 (20100911) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list [email protected] http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
