unlike 6600, N86 is a slider phone i guess. So how are you familiarizing with the phone Dave?
On 9/12/10, David Griffith <[email protected]> wrote: > Basically I saw quite a lot of discussion on other lists about which was the > best phone to buy for someone with visual impairment, and there were a lot > of people recommending the N86. > I then checked general reviews of the N86 on Google, and the results were > pretty positive as well. One review, for example, claimed that it was the > best phone if you were not to go down the touch screen smart phone route. > So far I have been very happy with the phone apart from the access barriers > which I think would appear on any > Regards > > David Griffith. > > phone. > > Regards > > David Griffith > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Sabaruddin Isa > Sent: Sunday, 12 September 2010 05:18 > To: Talks Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Talks] 6600/N86 was Re: Quick Office > > hi > > May i know why N86 become your choice Dave. > Thanks > > > On 9/12/10, Stephen Giggar <[email protected]> wrote: >> Dave >> >> You went from a 1st Edition phone 6600 to a 3rd Edition phone N86. There > is >> no compareson between the two. The 1st Edition phones whir good for there >> time and I wouldn't expect them to work with later things on the market >> including PC Suite. The old 1st Edition phones used PC Suite 1.x or >> something like that! <smile> The best thing I liked about the old 1st >> Edition phones is you could install Software on the phone and do it all >> through the PC without having to touch the phone. >> >> The N86 you have to do it on the phone to finish the install. The good > thing >> about this is no one can install software remotely on your phone without > you >> knowing about it being you have to do it on the phone. >> >> Signed: Stephen Giggar >> Skype: dr-phone. >> >> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works. >> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David Griffith" <[email protected]> >> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:48 PM >> Subject: Re: [Talks] Quick Office >> >> >>> Very helpful background elenore, >>> You are right that I am a relative new comer to Talks and my knowledge >>> in >>> this area is very limited compared to other areas of technology. >>> This was mainly due to the problems of connectivity I had with my old >>> Nokia >>> 6600. >>> This phone only had basic file transfer possible via blue tooth and it >>> proved impossible to sync or connect with PC suite. >>> I even employed a computer engineer for 2 hours but he was completely >>> stumped by this phone. He demonstrated how it was possible to connect and >>> sync a number of other phones but not this 6600. it appeared from > Google >>> searches that this was a known problem and you needed an old service > pack >>> >>> 1 >>> XP machine to really connect the 6600 without problem. >>> I responded by using the phone with a very limited feature set. >>> >>> So I am only now with my new N86 moving into a more general usage of > talks >>> and a phone. >>> The 6600 is going to my sister who does not need a expanded feature set. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> David Griffith >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Eleanor Burke >>> Sent: Saturday, 11 September 2010 17:15 >>> To: Talks Mailing List >>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Quick Office >>> >>> Oh well David that is unfortunate and I hate being caught out myself > after >>> the event. Now you are a new comer to Talks which surprises me a little >>> as >>> I have benefited from very valuable information from you on other lists > so >>> surprised that you are only now coming to Talks screen reader. Now I've >>> been using Talks for about 2 years and have been following when new >>> releases/updates occur. You would have known from Talks 4 about Quick >>> Office and we were all pleased that Talks was then making the reading of >>> Word documents available at least!!! At that time it was said in the >>> release notes that Talks would not read from within the Quick Office or >>> maybe I stand corrected but I knew it was something I was aware of at > that >>> time. Then there was the untimely death of one of the Talks developers >>> back >>> >>> last Easter or May time, I think it was April. A very sad loss to the >>> Talks >>> >>> community but the good work has continued thankfully. May I suggest that >>> you consider Ped or Bread for your text files. >>> >>> Eleanor >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "David Griffith" <[email protected]> >>> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:46 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Quick Office >>> >>> >>>> Thanks for this information Elenore. >>>> I am a bit annoyed with Nuance. >>>> >>>> I think the following statement on the Nuance talks page is misleading. >>>> Especially as it was after reading this text that I decided to purchase >>>> Quick Office. >>>> Beginning of quote >>>> >>>> NEW! TALKS&ZOOMS now support reading and even editing word documents, > for >>>> instance, e-mail attachments, in Quick Word. QuickWord is a part of >>>> QuickOffice, and its view-only version is pre-installed on most > handsets, >>>> while the version that allows to edit text is pre-installed on the Nokia >>>> E-Series handsets, or can be purchased otherwise. >>>> End of quote >>>> There is no warning anywhere that Talks will only partly support the >>>> reading >>>> of menus in quick Office and will fail to allow file navigation within >>>> quick >>>> office. If for example you are trying to achieve the reading of a text >>>> file >>>> in quick office this seems impossible with talks present support. >>>> >>>> I think this is a misleading advert and I will raise this in the first >>>> place >>>> with sight and sound who sold the talks software to me. >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> David Griffith >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Eleanor Burke >>>> Sent: Saturday, 11 September 2010 14:02 >>>> To: Talks Mailing List >>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Quick Office >>>> >>>> Well David you are partly there. No Talks will not access your files >>>> using >>>> speech via Quick Office. Put the files in a folder on the Mass Memory >>>> and >>>> then go to them there and open them from there. For example. I have a >>>> folder called Law and in that folder I have my notes which I transferred >>>> from the computer which are written in Word. I then go to that folder >>>> via >>>> file manager and locate a file and open it. Do remember that you have >>>> then >>>> to go to options and edit in order to read through the document. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "David Griffith" <[email protected]> >>>> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 12:13 PM >>>> Subject: [Talks] Quick Office >>>> >>>> >>>>> Having failed in an attempt to successfully install, or use, 4 text >>>>> editors >>>>> including T Edit and B edit I today purchased Quick Office >>>>> >>>>> This installed fine but I am experiencing major difficulties in opening >>>>> files. >>>>> >>>>> If I select options open I can navigate down to the phone's mass memory >>>>> but >>>>> from there on talks does not read any file paths. >>>>> By experimenting I find that by pushing right Talks will announce AD >>>>> Films >>>>> which is the first folder on the phone's mass memory . However I cannot >>>>> get >>>>> Talks to announce the other folders as I move down. >>>>> Continuing to push right will simply launch one of the films in this >>>>> folder >>>>> without announcing the name of the file. >>>>> >>>>> Leaving quick office and Using file manager , I can navigate fine to > the >>>>> text files I need to open. The problem is that opening them here does >>>>> not >>>>> open then into quick office. >>>>> >>>>> Is there a way of making quick office accessible with Talks or is there >>>>> a >>>>> way of forcing file Manager to open txt files in Quick Office? >>>>> I tried a utility called file Associate but again it was not compatible >>>>> with >>>>> the N86. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> David Griffith >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >>>>> signature >>>>> database 5441 (20100910) __________ >>>>> >>>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.eset.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Talks mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >>>>> >>>>> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >>>>> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >>>>> and >>>>> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Talks mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >>>> >>>> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >>>> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >>>> and >>>> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >>>> >>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >>>> signature >>>> database 5442 (20100911) __________ >>>> >>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >>>> >>>> http://www.eset.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >>>> signature >>>> database 5442 (20100911) __________ >>>> >>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >>>> >>>> http://www.eset.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Talks mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >>>> >>>> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >>>> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >>>> and >>>> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talks mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >>> >>> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >>> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >>> and >>> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >>> signature >>> database 5443 (20100911) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >>> signature >>> database 5443 (20100911) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talks mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >>> >>> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >>> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >>> and >>> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talks mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >> >> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >> and >> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >> > _______________________________________________ > Talks mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > and > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 5443 (20100911) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 5444 (20100912) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Talks mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > and > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list [email protected] http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
