Basically I saw quite a lot of discussion on other lists about which was the best phone to buy for someone with visual impairment, and there were a lot of people recommending the N86. I then checked general reviews of the N86 on Google, and the results were pretty positive as well. One review, for example, claimed that it was the best phone if you were not to go down the touch screen smart phone route. So far I have been very happy with the phone apart from the access barriers which I think would appear on any Regards
David Griffith. phone. Regards David Griffith -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sabaruddin Isa Sent: Sunday, 12 September 2010 05:18 To: Talks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Talks] 6600/N86 was Re: Quick Office hi May i know why N86 become your choice Dave. Thanks On 9/12/10, Stephen Giggar <[email protected]> wrote: > Dave > > You went from a 1st Edition phone 6600 to a 3rd Edition phone N86. There is > no compareson between the two. The 1st Edition phones whir good for there > time and I wouldn't expect them to work with later things on the market > including PC Suite. The old 1st Edition phones used PC Suite 1.x or > something like that! <smile> The best thing I liked about the old 1st > Edition phones is you could install Software on the phone and do it all > through the PC without having to touch the phone. > > The N86 you have to do it on the phone to finish the install. The good thing > about this is no one can install software remotely on your phone without you > knowing about it being you have to do it on the phone. > > Signed: Stephen Giggar > Skype: dr-phone. > > Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works. > No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Griffith" <[email protected]> > To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:48 PM > Subject: Re: [Talks] Quick Office > > >> Very helpful background elenore, >> You are right that I am a relative new comer to Talks and my knowledge >> in >> this area is very limited compared to other areas of technology. >> This was mainly due to the problems of connectivity I had with my old >> Nokia >> 6600. >> This phone only had basic file transfer possible via blue tooth and it >> proved impossible to sync or connect with PC suite. >> I even employed a computer engineer for 2 hours but he was completely >> stumped by this phone. He demonstrated how it was possible to connect and >> sync a number of other phones but not this 6600. it appeared from Google >> searches that this was a known problem and you needed an old service pack >> >> 1 >> XP machine to really connect the 6600 without problem. >> I responded by using the phone with a very limited feature set. >> >> So I am only now with my new N86 moving into a more general usage of talks >> and a phone. >> The 6600 is going to my sister who does not need a expanded feature set. >> >> Regards >> >> David Griffith >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> On >> Behalf Of Eleanor Burke >> Sent: Saturday, 11 September 2010 17:15 >> To: Talks Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [Talks] Quick Office >> >> Oh well David that is unfortunate and I hate being caught out myself after >> the event. Now you are a new comer to Talks which surprises me a little >> as >> I have benefited from very valuable information from you on other lists so >> surprised that you are only now coming to Talks screen reader. Now I've >> been using Talks for about 2 years and have been following when new >> releases/updates occur. You would have known from Talks 4 about Quick >> Office and we were all pleased that Talks was then making the reading of >> Word documents available at least!!! At that time it was said in the >> release notes that Talks would not read from within the Quick Office or >> maybe I stand corrected but I knew it was something I was aware of at that >> time. Then there was the untimely death of one of the Talks developers >> back >> >> last Easter or May time, I think it was April. A very sad loss to the >> Talks >> >> community but the good work has continued thankfully. May I suggest that >> you consider Ped or Bread for your text files. >> >> Eleanor >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David Griffith" <[email protected]> >> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:46 PM >> Subject: Re: [Talks] Quick Office >> >> >>> Thanks for this information Elenore. >>> I am a bit annoyed with Nuance. >>> >>> I think the following statement on the Nuance talks page is misleading. >>> Especially as it was after reading this text that I decided to purchase >>> Quick Office. >>> Beginning of quote >>> >>> NEW! TALKS&ZOOMS now support reading and even editing word documents, for >>> instance, e-mail attachments, in Quick Word. QuickWord is a part of >>> QuickOffice, and its view-only version is pre-installed on most handsets, >>> while the version that allows to edit text is pre-installed on the Nokia >>> E-Series handsets, or can be purchased otherwise. >>> End of quote >>> There is no warning anywhere that Talks will only partly support the >>> reading >>> of menus in quick Office and will fail to allow file navigation within >>> quick >>> office. If for example you are trying to achieve the reading of a text >>> file >>> in quick office this seems impossible with talks present support. >>> >>> I think this is a misleading advert and I will raise this in the first >>> place >>> with sight and sound who sold the talks software to me. >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> David Griffith >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Eleanor Burke >>> Sent: Saturday, 11 September 2010 14:02 >>> To: Talks Mailing List >>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Quick Office >>> >>> Well David you are partly there. No Talks will not access your files >>> using >>> speech via Quick Office. Put the files in a folder on the Mass Memory >>> and >>> then go to them there and open them from there. For example. I have a >>> folder called Law and in that folder I have my notes which I transferred >>> from the computer which are written in Word. I then go to that folder >>> via >>> file manager and locate a file and open it. Do remember that you have >>> then >>> to go to options and edit in order to read through the document. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "David Griffith" <[email protected]> >>> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 12:13 PM >>> Subject: [Talks] Quick Office >>> >>> >>>> Having failed in an attempt to successfully install, or use, 4 text >>>> editors >>>> including T Edit and B edit I today purchased Quick Office >>>> >>>> This installed fine but I am experiencing major difficulties in opening >>>> files. >>>> >>>> If I select options open I can navigate down to the phone's mass memory >>>> but >>>> from there on talks does not read any file paths. >>>> By experimenting I find that by pushing right Talks will announce AD >>>> Films >>>> which is the first folder on the phone's mass memory . However I cannot >>>> get >>>> Talks to announce the other folders as I move down. >>>> Continuing to push right will simply launch one of the films in this >>>> folder >>>> without announcing the name of the file. >>>> >>>> Leaving quick office and Using file manager , I can navigate fine to the >>>> text files I need to open. The problem is that opening them here does >>>> not >>>> open then into quick office. >>>> >>>> Is there a way of making quick office accessible with Talks or is there >>>> a >>>> way of forcing file Manager to open txt files in Quick Office? >>>> I tried a utility called file Associate but again it was not compatible >>>> with >>>> the N86. >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> David Griffith >>>> >>>> >>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >>>> signature >>>> database 5441 (20100910) __________ >>>> >>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >>>> >>>> http://www.eset.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Talks mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >>>> >>>> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >>>> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >>>> and >>>> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talks mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >>> >>> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >>> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >>> and >>> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >>> signature >>> database 5442 (20100911) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >>> signature >>> database 5442 (20100911) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talks mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >>> >>> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >>> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >>> and >>> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talks mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >> >> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >> and >> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >> >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >> signature >> database 5443 (20100911) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >> signature >> database 5443 (20100911) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talks mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >> >> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >> and >> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > > _______________________________________________ > Talks mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > and > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list [email protected] http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5443 (20100911) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5444 (20100912) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list [email protected] http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
