The only real difference from the 6600, so far, is that I have to use the
menu key as the talks keys as the N86 does not appear to have an edit key.
I like the slider feature on the N86 as I have set the slide option to
lock
keypad whilst closed, and talks to mute whilst keypad is locked.
Basically I used to have the 6600 chattering away saying keypad locked
press
key 1 and start etc every time it bumped in my pocket. I could have
muted
it, but the present N86 arrangement where my phone shuts up, if I close
it,
and starts talking, if I open it, suits me fine.
The camera appears to be a major selling point for the N86 and I plan to
experiment with trials of K Reader and Beyo to see if there is acceptable
performance in scanning to justify a purchase.
At the moment I do not even know how to take a picture though so this is
an
unexplored area.
I have experimented with a free utility which is supposed to identify
colours amongst other things but results are not that great yet.
Regards
David Griffith
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On
Behalf Of Sabaruddin Isa
Sent: Sunday, 12 September 2010 14:47
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] 6600/N86 was Re: Quick Office
unlike 6600, N86 is a slider phone i guess. So how are you
familiarizing with the phone Dave?
On 9/12/10, David Griffith <[email protected]> wrote:
Basically I saw quite a lot of discussion on other lists about which was
the
best phone to buy for someone with visual impairment, and there were a
lot
of people recommending the N86.
I then checked general reviews of the N86 on Google, and the results were
pretty positive as well. One review, for example, claimed that it was the
best phone if you were not to go down the touch screen smart phone
route.
So far I have been very happy with the phone apart from the access
barriers
which I think would appear on any
Regards
David Griffith.
phone.
Regards
David Griffith
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On
Behalf Of Sabaruddin Isa
Sent: Sunday, 12 September 2010 05:18
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] 6600/N86 was Re: Quick Office
hi
May i know why N86 become your choice Dave.
Thanks
On 9/12/10, Stephen Giggar <[email protected]> wrote:
Dave
You went from a 1st Edition phone 6600 to a 3rd Edition phone N86. There
is
no compareson between the two. The 1st Edition phones whir good for
there
time and I wouldn't expect them to work with later things on the market
including PC Suite. The old 1st Edition phones used PC Suite 1.x or
something like that! <smile> The best thing I liked about the old 1st
Edition phones is you could install Software on the phone and do it all
through the PC without having to touch the phone.
The N86 you have to do it on the phone to finish the install. The good
thing
about this is no one can install software remotely on your phone without
you
knowing about it being you have to do it on the phone.
Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.
Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Griffith" <[email protected]>
To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] Quick Office
Very helpful background elenore,
You are right that I am a relative new comer to Talks and my
knowledge
in
this area is very limited compared to other areas of technology.
This was mainly due to the problems of connectivity I had with my old
Nokia
6600.
This phone only had basic file transfer possible via blue tooth and it
proved impossible to sync or connect with PC suite.
I even employed a computer engineer for 2 hours but he was completely
stumped by this phone. He demonstrated how it was possible to connect
and
sync a number of other phones but not this 6600. it appeared from
Google
searches that this was a known problem and you needed an old service
pack
1
XP machine to really connect the 6600 without problem.
I responded by using the phone with a very limited feature set.
So I am only now with my new N86 moving into a more general usage of
talks
and a phone.
The 6600 is going to my sister who does not need a expanded feature
set.
Regards
David Griffith
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]
On
Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: Saturday, 11 September 2010 17:15
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] Quick Office
Oh well David that is unfortunate and I hate being caught out myself
after
the event. Now you are a new comer to Talks which surprises me a
little
as
I have benefited from very valuable information from you on other lists
so
surprised that you are only now coming to Talks screen reader. Now
I've
been using Talks for about 2 years and have been following when new
releases/updates occur. You would have known from Talks 4 about Quick
Office and we were all pleased that Talks was then making the reading
of
Word documents available at least!!! At that time it was said in the
release notes that Talks would not read from within the Quick Office or
maybe I stand corrected but I knew it was something I was aware of at
that
time. Then there was the untimely death of one of the Talks developers
back
last Easter or May time, I think it was April. A very sad loss to the
Talks
community but the good work has continued thankfully. May I suggest
that
you consider Ped or Bread for your text files.
Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Griffith" <[email protected]>
To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] Quick Office
Thanks for this information Elenore.
I am a bit annoyed with Nuance.
I think the following statement on the Nuance talks page is
misleading.
Especially as it was after reading this text that I decided to
purchase
Quick Office.
Beginning of quote
NEW! TALKS&ZOOMS now support reading and even editing word documents,
for
instance, e-mail attachments, in Quick Word. QuickWord is a part of
QuickOffice, and its view-only version is pre-installed on most
handsets,
while the version that allows to edit text is pre-installed on the
Nokia
E-Series handsets, or can be purchased otherwise.
End of quote
There is no warning anywhere that Talks will only partly support the
reading
of menus in quick Office and will fail to allow file navigation within
quick
office. If for example you are trying to achieve the reading of a text
file
in quick office this seems impossible with talks present support.
I think this is a misleading advert and I will raise this in the first
place
with sight and sound who sold the talks software to me.
Regards
David Griffith
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]
On
Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: Saturday, 11 September 2010 14:02
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] Quick Office
Well David you are partly there. No Talks will not access your files
using
speech via Quick Office. Put the files in a folder on the Mass Memory
and
then go to them there and open them from there. For example. I have
a
folder called Law and in that folder I have my notes which I
transferred
from the computer which are written in Word. I then go to that folder
via
file manager and locate a file and open it. Do remember that you have
then
to go to options and edit in order to read through the document.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Griffith" <[email protected]>
To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 12:13 PM
Subject: [Talks] Quick Office
Having failed in an attempt to successfully install, or use, 4 text
editors
including T Edit and B edit I today purchased Quick Office
This installed fine but I am experiencing major difficulties in
opening
files.
If I select options open I can navigate down to the phone's mass
memory
but
from there on talks does not read any file paths.
By experimenting I find that by pushing right Talks will announce AD
Films
which is the first folder on the phone's mass memory . However I
cannot
get
Talks to announce the other folders as I move down.
Continuing to push right will simply launch one of the films in this
folder
without announcing the name of the file.
Leaving quick office and Using file manager , I can navigate fine to
the
text files I need to open. The problem is that opening them here
does
not
open then into quick office.
Is there a way of making quick office accessible with Talks or is
there
a
way of forcing file Manager to open txt files in Quick Office?
I tried a utility called file Associate but again it was not
compatible
with
the N86.
Regards
David Griffith
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