Thank you very much for giving me the clarity. Yeah, you're right. I'm confused between extended character and symbol. The problem I got hereby is related to the extended character. My previous handset is Nokia N82, though the way I selected all extended character like '*', '(', or ')', I'll press * button and move around. However, the new handset I got recently is Nokia E5 which comes with the full QWERTY keyboard, though all extended characters are everywhere around.

Yours, Eakachai


-----Original Message----- From: David Griffith
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 9:07 PM
To: 'Talks Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia E5 problem, I can't access symbol!!!

Just to eliminate the obvious.
The (  left paren signs is not a symbol but part of the ascii character set.
I wonder if there is a confusion between symbols and characters here.
Symbols were introduced in computing as special fonts where things like
graphics of phones and smiley faces etc were assigned to characters in
special windows fonts like symbol and wingdings.
So I  think what you are after is not symbols but extended characters. I do
not have your phone but

When I press the star key I am offered a character from the extended ascii
set, not a symbol. .
If this is not what I want I press down  once and Talks announces more
characters.
I press enter on this.
I can then cursor up and down  and left and right what sounds like a whole
grid of characters.  If I cannot find what I want by cursoring right or left
then I can continue to cursor up and down onto new lines which offers
different characters like brackets, currency signs and so on until I find
what I want.
Is your phone not behaving like this?

Regards

David Griffith

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Eakachai Charoenchaimonkon
Sent: Wednesday, 27 October 2010 11:03
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia E5 problem, I can't access symbol!!!


I can find the 'char' key, but it doesn't help me find all symbols; for
example ( or ) sign. There is a 'symbol' key, but it's all about emoticon,
and non-speakable symbols.

After I installed Talks (at the first time), I can't find 'talk' key and
'char' key is not 'talk' key by default. Now I did change 'talk' key to
'menu' key on the left.

Yours, Eakachai


-----Original Message----- From: Stephen Giggar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:22 PM
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia E5 problem, I can't access symbol!!!

What happens if you press the CHAR key twice to brin up the Symbol list?
does it read anything on that screen? Also does Talks use he CHAR key as the
Talks key by default?

Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Eakachai Charoenchaimonkon" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:29 AM
Subject: [Talks] Nokia E5 problem, I can't access symbol!!!



Dear all,

I'm not sure whether this question has been addressed on the list or not. I
got Nokia E5 last couple of days. Everything seems to be pretty nice with
Talks 5.01. I observe one difficulty I got. I can't type symbols apart from
'dot' and 'colon' that are available on the QWERTY keyboard. I knew I have
to press the third button on the lowliest line on the left and select the
symbol directly, but Talks can't read any emotocon anyway.

Yours, Eakachai



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