Notice also the following differences between the two videos: in the second, there is the need of cramming in as many different types of steps as possible within the duration of the song. That in itself is not a characteristic of show tango, but is a characteristic of many dancers of the current generation. The older generation execute man variations on a small number of fundamental steps, thus leading to elegance, and continuity.
Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: hbboog...@aol.com Date: Saturday, December 25, 2010 10:30 am Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Type-A Tango Salon or Show ? To: sopel...@yahoo.com, tango-l@mit.edu > For those of you that don’t seem to be able to separate salon > tango from > performance tango here are two videos that clearly show the > difference. The > first video is Orlando Paiva dancing at Sunderland. Orlando was > the master > of smooth elegant tango. Balance, axis, timing and connection. The > definition of Salon tango is to dance closed and open embrace > within the music. > Notice how they start off in closed embrace and walk then he > gently releases > her to execute a figure, you barely notice her arm slip from his > shoulder to > his arm and then back again. Their feet are always in contact with > the > floor, they don’t look down at the floor…..blah,blah,blah….the > point is if > you can dance salon tango you now have the skill to effortlessly > dance close > embrace or milonguero tango or whatever you wish to call it. > > In the second video Murat and Michelle perform a show tango. With > no > disrespect to Murat and Michelle a large number of tango dancers > are taught a > lot of the moves you see in this video. You can see the same open > and closed > embrace being danced but that’s pretty much the only thing the two > styles > have in common. It’s Show or Performance tango and it’s not > intended to be > danced at a social milonga. > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in8rG2BHnwo > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrhlyM-_yos > > > In a message dated 12/25/2010 6:51:40 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > sopel...@yahoo.com writes: > > Hi David, yes i have lots of opinions....and probably don't > 'know' much > about classes...but im trying to distiguish between what goes on > in a > social > dance and what goes on in a class..they seem to be different.. > like the > 'class' > is about a different dance. > I agree that the leader here pretty much dictates the follow but > there is > a > deadliness to their > > dance that is very disappointing to me...if i were hoping for such > mastery > , > I'd > > quit because I'm simply not interested in this dance. > whereas watching videos from tango and chaos simply AMAZES me! .. > sure, > theyve > been dancing umpteen million years..but can't WE go for expression > and > individuality too? or just cookie cutter dullness... one has to > start > somewhere... maybe im being too harsh but if you read Bora's > blog..it > seems to > me that, she is going > > down the performance path without even knowing it... i say that > 'salon' is > performance..it is only danced in performance dances that i have > ever > seen... > where else is 'salon' danced? ok its a word for the general dance > floor > dance > but i say it is already co opted ...that the non-Nuevo performers > have > already > slipped in their palative > covert- performance dance as THE authentic one..calling it > SALON...it is > NOT the > Social dance... > I want to champion the SOCIAL DANCE as it is danced socially...no > one > seems to > be interested in this. > I was just talking the other day to the wife of Ricardo Bellozo > (of > AbreTango) > they are preparing to return > to BsAs instead of continuing to live and teach in Italy because > stage > tango has > usurped the interest in the social dance there. We are witnessing > the > demise of > the social dance everywhere except in BsAs....so far. > sincerely M.. > > ... > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=734224171 > www.youtube.com/user/nacotete > www.tangoandchaos.org > www.theopendoorway.org/audiovisual.html > "The music makes you dance. It is so simple when one gets it. > Connect with > my > partner and then connect with the music, let the music tell me how > to move > my > body rather than me tell my body how to move to the music. With the > right > music > and right partner, I am contented to have just one tanda a night" - > Pedro > Sanchez > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tango-L mailing list > Tango-L@mit.edu > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l > > _______________________________________________ > Tango-L mailing list > Tango-L@mit.edu > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l > _______________________________________________ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l