I don't find the modeller to be such a critical feature of cayenne.  All it
does is generate an xml file.  An easily edited xml file at that... a
straightforward list of the entities, attributes and relationships.  There's
an ant task to generate java classes from the model file.  I don't use the
modeller very much after the initial design.


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From: "Eric Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 8:08 AM
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> Interesting point.  Kind of like saying, this car comes with wheels
> which is exactly why I will NOT buy it.
>
> Just me.  :)
>
> All joking aside, if you've reached a point where you are productive
> with a tool, stick with it.
>
> Cheers,
> e.
>
> On Aug 19, 2005, at 7:17 PM, Konstantin Ignatyev wrote:
>
> > Thanks for sharing.
> >
> > Many people- many opinions. The emphasis on the
> > modeller in Cayene is the decisive factor why I do NOT
> > want to explore this product :). Just me.
> >
> > --- James Treleaven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Konstantin Ignatyev wrote:
> >>
> >>> Could you share what exactly makes you to consider
> >>> Cayene being better tnan Hibernate?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Like Eric (whose opinion obviously counts for a lot
> >> more than mine), I
> >> like the fact that Cayenne will dynamically fault
> >> relationships for you,
> >> and I prefer the Cayenne modeler to constructing XML
> >> text files or using
> >> XDoclet.  Cayenne's biggest practical advantage IMHO
> >> is the mailing list
> >> - I don't think I have ever seen a question gone
> >> unanswered and I have
> >> never seen anyone get dressed down for asking
> >> something basic or silly.
> >>
> >> Then there is the unquantifiable aesthetic factor,
> >> Cayenne just *feels*
> >> cleaner to me.
> >>
> >> I cannot say that Cayenne is head and shoulders
> >> above Hibernate, but I
> >> do wish more people would give it a chance rather
> >> than just running to
> >> the more popular object/relational mapping tool.
> >>
> >> James
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
> > Konstantin Ignatyev
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > PS: If this is a typical day on planet earth, humans will add
> > fifteen million tons of carbon to the atmosphere, destroy 115
> > square miles of tropical rainforest, create seventy-two miles of
> > desert, eliminate between forty to one hundred species, erode
> > seventy-one million tons of topsoil, add 2,700 tons of CFCs to the
> > stratosphere, and increase their population by 263,000
> >
> > Bowers, C.A.  The Culture of Denial:  Why the Environmental
> > Movement Needs a Strategy for Reforming Universities and Public
> > Schools.  New York:  State University of New York Press, 1997: (4)
> > (5) (p.206)
> >
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