All, I guess I shouldn't have used the word "only", no offense was meant. And I wasn't being very accurate, my primary use for Spindle is to do a save and rebuild and check for any errors. It scans my entire project, which includes 147 .jwc files and 15 .page files. If anything is wrong anywhere it flags the errors. I also use it as I edit .html/.jwc files and my .application file, to make sure that they are internally consistent. I don't want to find these errors at run-time! Occasionally, I use the eclipse->New->Create Component, to create new components, however, that is really only using the pre-defined templates. And I find it handy to use the auto-complete to figure out what parameters are available, however this can be done by reading the web-page.
I have no desire to try and use Tapestry without Spindle! As the "GUI Lead", I have kept my entire development team on 3.03 waiting for Spindle. Other projects here, have moved on to Tapestry 4. However, all of the new stuff is 4.x. Howard is already talking 5.0. And I have to decide when do we convert. Someone (NOT Geoff) said something about Q3, I was waiting for Geoff to respond back with "oh no, sooner than that". However, I haven't heard anything to the contrary and I have to decide when to move on to T4. In my previous e-mail, I was trying to tell Fanz that he could develop Tapestry 4.0 without Spindle, but I wouldn't want to do so. Hope that explains my position better. regards, Mark -----Original Message----- From: Geoff Longman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 2/1/2006 10:21 AM To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: Re: Spindle for Tapesty 4? Now I *know* I have to pick up the pace on Spindle for Tapestry 4! while I would agree that "Spindle makes life easier, but is not required." I wonder, if the statement "Spindle is only used for editing" was made because Spindle does not yet support Tapestry 4? Editing is an afterthought in Spindle. Editing is the eye candy. Hardly the selling point of the tool. Any old Tapestry 3 users agree/disagree? Geoff On 2/1/06, Mark Stang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fanz, > Spindle is only used for editing. It is an eclipse plugin that highlights > text and does edit checks. I would consider it an eclipse editor for > .jwc/.html and application files. If you are looking for reference designs > the wiki has a list of sites that have been implemented with Tapestry. > > Spindle makes life easier, but is not required. > > hth, > > Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cui, Fanzhe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wed 2/1/2006 9:31 AM > To: Tapestry users > Subject: RE: Re: Spindle for Tapesty 4? > > I did read that tutorial by Kent, and I think it is very good tutorial - I am > even think buying the ebook for the rest of the chapters. What I am trying > now is go further to design a web server with more sophisticated features. > Before doing so, I wanted to see some reference designs with Tapestry, but I > found some of them were using spindle as well. > > Fanz > -----Original Message----- > From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Piterman > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:12 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Spindle for Tapesty 4? > > There is a book on tapestry 4.0 from kent tong, and there is the getting > started tutorial in tapestry homepage - this should get one going, both > for tapestry 4.0ß and don't rely on spindle. > Cheers, > Ron > > > Cui, Fanzhe wrote: > > Thanks for the info. There are many good tutorials, demos, and reference > > designs for Tapestry. But many of them were based on Spindle + Tapestry > > 3. Currently many of Tapestry users are using Tapestry 4, and they have > > to roll back to Tapestry 3 if they want to try them. > > Regards, > > Fanz > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Leonardo Quijano Vincenzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 10:55 AM > > To: Tapestry users > > Subject: Re: Spindle for Tapesty 4? > > > > You're contradicting yourself. I think Geoff will do a great work on > > Spindle for Tap 4. It's too bad nobody helps him (but heh, everybody has > > > > their hands full and very few people know about Eclipse development). > > > > But it will be there, right Geoff ? > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- The Spindle guy. http://spindle.sf.net Get help with Spindle: http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/spindle-user Blog: http://jroller.com/page/glongman Feature Updates: http://spindle.sf.net/updates --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
