Hi, Ben,

On Jan 24, 2018 9:42 AM, "Ben Campbell" <b...@nostrum.com> wrote:



> On Jan 24, 2018, at 8:38 AM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF <
spencerdawkins.i...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi, Ben,
>
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 3:53 AM, Mirja Kühlewind <i...@kuehlewind.net>
wrote:
> Hi Ben,
>
> this change rather removed the restriction to not analyze features of
security protocols (other than tcpinc); this is mainly the first sentence.
As we see a closer integration of TLS with QUIC and we in general think
that security features are important, it is actually an important change to
allow us to do some additional work in this space.
>
> What Mirja said, but more than that - when I chartered TAPS, I was
thinking about choosing between transport protocols, but that's morphing
into choosing paths based on the way each potential path supports those
transport protocols, and paths can differ in the way they treat transport
security. So the working group should be including transport security in
its analysis, and that was excluded in the current charter.
>
> Does that help?

Yes, and it answers the question I just asked in response to Mirja’s email
:-)

Would it make sense to put “include transport security in it’s analysis” in
the explicitly in-scope bits?


That doesn't seem obviously wrong.

We may have been more focused on removing the prohibition than saying what
should happen, now that the prohibition has been removed :-)

Let me talk to the TAPSters about specific wording.

And thanks for asking.

Spencer



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> On 24.01.2018 04:42, Ben Campbell wrote:
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> Do I read correctly that the only change from the previous charter is to
remove
> the paragraph about coordinating with TCPINC? If so, I'm not sure that
change
> is important enough to justify rechartering, but I won't get in the way if
> other people agree with it.
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