If you live long enough or if you apply enough Jack Daniels, I believe we all become unconsciously incontinent.
B On Dec 22, 6:43 pm, "bo'weavil" <mar...@edmedia.com.au> wrote: > Somewhere along the line I was told of this learning pathway: > 1. Unconsciously incompetent > 2. Consciously incompetent > 3. Consciously competent > 4. Unconsciously competent > Me I think I’m somewhere in step 2 and 3, for the most part (2) I know > I haven’t nailed it but sometimes (3) I think yep that’s it and then > instantly find myself back at step 2. I have no idea when you get the > step 4, I suppose you don’t know because it just is.... > > Bo'Weavil > > On Dec 23, 10:41 am, mistertaterbug <taterbugmu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Chris, > > The way I heard it, it takes 7 years to make a fiddler. Owen Saunders > > says it takes at least 4 years to be a "bad" fiddler. <G> > > > I really don't think that there is a time limit/expectancy on it. I've > > heard that Woody Herman was once told by a fan that it looked like > > playing music was easy for him, to which Herman replied something > > like, "You go practice 8 hours a day for the next 10 years and then > > come talk to me about easy". It has a lot to do with what Raymond was > > talking about...obsession, an all-consuming drive to learn how to make > > that sound you've become acquainted with. There was a time that I > > NEVER saw David Grier without a guitar in his lap. There really is no > > end to the journey as long as you're drawing breath. Monroe kept the > > magic for the music until the day he died. And, as Robin mentioned, > > your ears hear things as you go along that you didn't hear before. You > > have to educate yourself as you go, learn little bits and use them, > > learn how they fit together. You have to learn how to listen. I'm > > still hearing new things in the music I've listened to for 30 years. > > I've heard the same thing from many other devotees of the old styles. > > > I really think that it would be nearly impossible for working adults > > with family obligations to reach the heights some have simply because > > of the amount of time required by the music. It is my opinion that > > starting early before there are so many obligations is the key. > > Whether we become Monroes or Thiles or Hermans or Bakers or Reinhardts > > or whatever is not the point though. The point is to bath in the sound > > and enjoy it. Just for your own information, you are a lot better > > player now than you were two years ago when we met, so you must be > > doing it right. Keep after it. > > > Taterbug > > > On Dec 21, 8:41 pm, Raymond Huffmaster <raymondhuffmas...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > Evenin;.. > > > Robin,if you're talking about Bluegrass Music being difficult to play > > > right...I fully agree with you . And,you know,I think it's because of > > > the > > > central structure of the music as Monroe heard it...rhythm and > > > timing . > > > Without these two components it all goes right to he!!... > > > If the rhythm and timing is there supporting the melody and you play > > > the > > > melody as simple as you can..wonderful...like gravy on a bisquit , no > > > need > > > for improvement.. > > > Bluegrass Music is very hard to play..but once you know you're doing > > > it right > > > It becomes easy as can be...and so satisfying,quite addictive...or it > > > was/is to > > > me... > > > > Loafer > > > > On Dec 21, 2:53 pm, Robin Gravina <robin.grav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Smart words. The longer I do this, and the more I hear, I get crazy > > > > that I can't play two notes together that make real sense. Luckily > > > > though, my ear only gets trained a bit better than I can play, > > > > otherwise I'd get really irritated. I can't get over how difficult it > > > > is to get right. > > > > Fun though > > > > > 2009/12/20, Raymond Huffmaster <raymondhuffmas...@gmail.com>: > > > > > > Evenin' Chris... > > > > > I don't know where or who "Out There" is..but I will say > > > > > that , in my opinion ,if you are burning up inside to play good.. > > > > > if it's really important to you...you never reach a point of total > > > > > satisfaction . There is always another thing to learn,another > > > > > phrase to use,another great player that you want to play with . > > > > > > I always wanted to play good enough to play with my heros... > > > > > reached that point with some of 'em . Yet there are still things > > > > > I hear, a lot from T-Bug , that I want to learn,I want to play with... > > > > > > Holding your own....means that you need to play better..to > > > > > satisfy your own self...or it does to me...practice,my friend.. > > > > > > Loafer > > > > > > On Dec 20, 1:16 pm, Chris Thomas <christopher.s.tho...@cox.net> wrote: > > > > >> I had the chance to attend the "Blue Ridge Music Makers Guild" > > > > >> Christmas Party (http://www.blueridgemusicmakersguild.com)theother > > > > >> night and enjoy some 'ol time music (in the Galax, Floyd, Woodlawn, > > > > >> Hillsville, Fries, Independence section of VA). > > > > > >> One guy was 91 years old & sharp as a tack. He could play ANYTHING > > > > >> on > > > > >> the harmonica and also played his tie on fiddle tunes (it is > > > > >> corrugated metal and he has picks for his fingers). He also is in > > > > >> their book: http://www.blueridgemusicmakersguild.com/Arcadia.htm > > > > > >> As the party was winding down I was picking with a nice lady who > > > > >> has > > > > >> been playing fiddle (made by a local) for 7 years. To my enjoyment > > > > >> we > > > > >> were messing with some tunes that I learned thru the TaterCam > > > > >> lessons. She told me that the general consensus "out there" is that > > > > >> it takes 12 years to make a fiddler that can hold his/her own. > > > > > >> What are your thoughts on the making of a mandolin player? I have > > > > >> been playing 'bout 6 years with no prior experience----am I really > > > > >> only half way there? > > > > > >> For me a big part was “trying” to move away from tab and learning to > > > > >> listen as well as focus on a particular style. > > > > > >> Merry Christmas, > > > > > >> Chris > > > > > > -- > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > > Groups > > > > > "Taterbugmando" group. > > > > > To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. > > > > > -- > > > > Enviado desde mi dispositivo móvil- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Taterbugmando" group. 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