Val and Robin,
I have a Shetland Island tune here that has an A part that is almost
exactly the B part of Grub Springs (if one thought of the Grub Springs
version being an on-steroids take, a few more notes, and a jazzed up
rhythm).  I am convinced that a fiddler long ago arrived in Old Miss,
from the Shetlands, then over time, a Mississippi spin was put on the
tune, giving it a crooked and kinda spooky effect, while accommodating
the local dance style.

A mate of mine has said that in old time music there are really only 5
or 6  tunes.  And only one model one.  Meaning most of the old time
music is just a variation of one of the 5 or 6 tunes. When my mate
hears a new tune, she links in her mind to say ...Sally Goodin or one
of the other basic 5.

We have the fire going here, as even though it is summer, its been
cold and cloudy with cold wind and rain. We are right on the edge of a
weather front, so once in a while for an hour or so warm summer
sunshine, then the south pole climate moves in again.

linder


On Dec 21, 12:13 am, Val Mindel <vmin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Robin, that's a ramble in many dimensions. But Dusty Miller and Grub
> echo each other beyond the key thing. There's a clear path there.
> Garfields is another journey. For me its still such a finger twister
> that I can't relax and get into the music of it. In the rambling
> spirit, I've managed to get this far in the holiday season without
> getting totally sick of Christmas music (probably because I haven't
> ventured much into commercial establishments). Life is snowy here in
> Vermont, but cozy ... just the right sort of weather to hunker down
> and learn tunes. best, val
>
> On Dec 19, 2:48 pm, Robin Gravina <robin.grav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Was playing the Grub the other day, and found myself playing Dusty
> > Miller, then today while fixing my daughter's crappy keyboard, played
> > it in E flat, starting on C and it turned into garfields BB. anyone
> > else? or have I been listening to too much Capt Beefheart these days?
> > And in Spain, Enrique Morente has just died too: fantastic flamenco
> > singer with as wide a palette as you can imagine: recorded with a Punk
> > band, but was also purer than the pure.
> > So endeth the ramble
>
> > 2010/12/18, mistertaterbug <taterbugmu...@gmail.com>:
>
> > > Must be a girl thing! Ah, the kind of remark that inspires "open
> > > season" for retribution. <G> Let 'er fly!
> > > TB
>
> > > On Dec 17, 9:14 am, kathy nichols <kathymnich...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Very good points Gathel.  I have already learned alot about myself
> > >> watching my video attempts. Like do I really hold my pick like that?!!
> > >>  Kinda like listening to your own voice.  We do tend to be our own
> > >> worst critics.
> > >> I also find this group very supportive of everyone's attempts and hope
> > >> to have my version of "Bug Water" up soon, double slops and all.
>
> > >> Funny how Val and I came up with the same phrase!
>
> > >> Kathy
>
> > >> On 12/17/10, Gathel Runnels <gorunn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> > I agree with the big Tater. What's really important is to have fun and
> > >> > do
> > >> > what you can. You learn a lot from listening and watching yourself 
> > >> > play.
> > >> > You
> > >> > see all the mistakes and hear that stuff you thought sounded like one
> > >> > thing
> > >> > doesn't really sound that way. It's painful for most of us to see and
> > >> > hear
> > >> > recordings of ourselves but the thing I've realized is that everybody
> > >> > else
> > >> > has already seen and heard what you really sound like and most still
> > >> > like to
> > >> > pick with you. Others have already accepted you for what you are so 
> > >> > just
> > >> > do
> > >> > your best and use it as a learning experience. Look at it in very
> > >> > technical
> > >> > terms like how would it sound different if I positioned the mic
> > >> > differently
> > >> > or used more down strokes or bought a much better instrument or
> > >> > whatever.
> > >> > Pretend that your looking at someone else and what would you tell them
> > >> > to
> > >> > make their pickin' better.
> > >> > This has been fun to see how everyone treats the tune a little
> > >> > differently.
> > >> > It's easy to see how, in the days before recordings, that tunes 
> > >> > evolved.
> > >> > Keep 'em coming.
>
> > >> > Gathel
>
> > >> > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 8:48 AM, mistertaterbug
> > >> > <taterbugmu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > >> >> Just do what you can do. No judgements from out here in Taterbug land.
> > >> >> Val invented a new phrase the other day by accident(slip of the
> > >> >> tongue) that I think applies to all of us. Her phrase is "double
> > >> >> slops". Too funny, too true. Loosen up and enjoy yourself. You don't
> > >> >> have to wear your best hat in front of us. We like you like you are,
> > >> >> warts and all. You listening, Clyde?
> > >> >> Tbug
>
> > >> >> On Dec 17, 6:16 am, Linda <lj...@intas.net.au> wrote:
> > >> >> > That goes for me too..heck I have only been working on mando serious
> > >> >> > for a couple of years....I working too.
> > >> >> > I draw some and find what I aim for from my head is nothing like 
> > >> >> > what
> > >> >> > comes out on paper.  And its that way with the mando too.  I am
> > >> >> > hearing it, and when I play it on vid, it seems like somebody else
> > >> >> > and
> > >> >> > not how my head is hearing it.  Remarks from Tater are noted and
> > >> >> > appreciated.
> > >> >> > I am aiming for my muse...might be more like a mess though.  This is
> > >> >> > a
> > >> >> > great exercise challenges on so many levels all in the one go.  
> > >> >> > Still
> > >> >> > fussing with it..still trying...
>
> > >> >> > On Dec 17, 4:00 pm, mandoho...@comcast.net wrote:
>
> > >> >> > > I've been working pretty hard on Grub Springs, have recorded it
> > >> >> > > three
> > >> >> times now but what's coming out
> > >> >> > > is not what I'm hearing in my head, I'm not happy with it at all. 
> > >> >> > > I
> > >> >> think I have to grind it up again a few more
> > >> >> > > times and see what comes out. This is strange for me as I'm not 
> > >> >> > > the
> > >> >> least bit bashful about my playing, I've
> > >> >> > > been know to jump right into any jam, crash and burn and come up
> > >> >> smiling like I meant to do it just like that.
> > >> >> > > But this is different, serious folks that know what they are doing
> > >> >> > > and
> > >> >> some mighty fine pickers. Not so easy
> > >> >> > > to skin your ignorance in front of your heroes. I'm working on it.
>
> > >> >> > > Clyde Clevenger
> > >> >> > > Just My Opinion, But It's Right
> > >> >> > > Salem, Oregon
> > >> >> > > Old Circle
>
> > >> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> >> > > From: "mistertaterbug" <taterbugmu...@gmail.com>
>
> > >> >> > > Can I say something here? Can I be slightly a hard ass? Here's the
> > >> >> > > deal...this tune of the month thing is about each of us playing 
> > >> >> > > our
> > >> >> > > interpretation of a given song/tune. That means, whatever your 
> > >> >> > > muse
> > >> >> > > tells you, that's what you do. If you hear a song in a different
> > >> >> > > genre, have at it. If you want to play it on something beside
> > >> >> > > mandolin, do it. Give your emotions their due. Give your whims
> > >> >> > > their
> > >> >> > > due. Give every phrase your best. Don't hold back and let the
> > >> >> > > damned
> > >> >> > > censor take over your creativity before you can even get started.
> > >> >> > > Come
> > >> >> > > on folks, there's enough empty musical dialogue in the world. Make
> > >> >> > > a
> > >> >> > > point, take a stand, pour your heart out. I want to get to know
> > >> >> > > your
> > >> >> > > musical fingerprints...
> > >> >> > > Instiga-tater
>
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