"Indie_Dev" wrote on 23/08/2007 at 10:59:47 +1100
subject "Interface Inconsistencies" :
> Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 7:30:15 PM, you wrote:
>> Hi Zygmunt,
>> On Tue, 21 Aug 2007, at 22:45:03 [GMT +0200] (which was 22:45 where I live)
>> you wrote about: 'Interface Inconsistencies'
>>>>> [...] The Bat! knows nothing about the the receiving in that program.
>>>>> The Bat! uses current date and set it as 'receive' date.
>>>>> When you retrieve (not import) messages from the archive, you retrieve all
>>>>> information, including receive date for each message.
>>>> That is not completely true. TB could extract the date from the
>>>> 'Received' headers in the email. For example your message has the
>>>> following Received headers in my message base:
>>> Of course, The Bat! could use last Received date form the message header,
>>> but as you know, this is the date when the message arrived to the server.
>>> When you connect to the server tomorrow, The Bat! will receive the message
>>> and
>>> write internally the tomorrow date as 'receiving' date. From this point of
>>> view
>>> all is logically correct.
>> After reading all the responses to this thread I think the only
>> sensible solution is for TB to have an option (during import) to set the
>> received date to the last Received date from the header or the current
>> date.
> No, I think the sensible solution is to _not_ mess with it _at_all_.
> Just import it as-is. Problem solved. No debate needed.
TB! is importing eMail "as-is". Please inform you before making
statements that are wrong. The date used in "Received" column is not
extracted from the eMails, but is the date TB! received the eMail, and
this by any vector you want: POP3, IMAP, .MSG or UNIX Mailbox on
USB-stick, DVD, download....
This info is not stored in the headers of the eMails. And this
behaviour is good. Otherwise one will entirely depend of correct
configuration of time and timezones of sender and mailservers.
Anyway, if _you_ need an other behaviour, _you_ can obtain this
behaviour by using correctly the graphical interface of TB!.
> So when you import your email, the received and created field will be
> identical since they decided that they'd go an complicate and confuse
> things by adding a header that is clearly _not_ required.
TB! adds _no_ header. Please really inform you before speaking. Press
F9 to visualize the complete source of each message in TB!
> Every email program has the subject, sender, recipient, data, size and
> then you have additional stuff like attachments and whatnot.
> So when my email from 1996 has a received 'date' of 1996 and then I
> expect it to TB! and it comes up under 'received' date of the day of
> the export and again under the 'created' date which is the actual and
> accurate data, its just wrong.
Do not mix up "received" and "created"
"export" and "import"
If you are interested to sort your eMails in the way it is comfortable
for you, you can do it. If you do not want to do it yourself, you can
try that other will do it for you. But I am not certain that they will
do it, as many other people will be offended by the way _you_ prefer
the sorting.
The fact that TB! is managing himself the dates of reception is an
important feature for _me_.
This are my last 2 cents on this topic.
--
Sincerely
Hendrik Oesterlin - email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TheBat! 3.99.21 (BETA) and Regula Anti-Spam Plugin 2.2.6.0 on Windows 2000
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