On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 02:31:42 +0300, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote:

>> PS> Are we talking about the mailbox file format? From my understanding
>> PS> the Received time is the time in the first line of each message (the
>> PS> one starting with "From "). 

> Wrong here:-) For example, here's the headers of this very message I'm 
> replying to:

> Received: by AK2570.spb.edu (UUPC/@ v7.02, 26Apr98) with UUCP
>           id AA03863; Wed,  5 Jan 2000 00:39:15 +0300 (MSK)
> Received: from knot.pu.ru (knot.pu.ru [193.124.85.91] (may be forged))
>         by wg.pu.ru (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA24465
>         for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 02:05:30 GMT
> [more lines snipped]
> See what I mean, yeah?

So you were not talking about the mailbox format...

If I export your message to UNIX mailbox format it looks like:

>From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed Jan 5 01:01:15 2000
Received: by rzuds01.isbe.ch; id AAA31108; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 00:38:14 +0100 (MET)
Received: from thebat.dutaint.com (ns2.dutaint.com ...
Received: from wg.pu.ru by thebat.dutaint.com with ...
Received: from AK2570.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by wg.pu.ru ...
Received: by AK2570.spb.edu (UUPC/@ v7.02, 26Apr98) ...
From: "Alexander V. Kiselev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[...]
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 02:31:42 +0300

I was referring to this first line which shows my local time when i
got the mail from my POP server (the received time from TB!). There
we have the correct received time (correct unless you prefer the
time when the mail reached your POP mailbox, not when you fetched it
;-)

Unfortunately TB! does it right only when exporting... :-(

>> What Alex suggests is in my understanding showing the "received" time
>> as stamped by the pop server. TB, on the other hand, uses the time
>> when it (TB) receives the mail. Thus, it is currently quite consistent
>> - if annoying.

> TB *must* put it's *own* Received: field, and that's all. Like:

> Received: by TB 1.38e; Wed,  5 Jan 2000 00:39:15 +0300 (MSK)

> Don't you think this would solve the problem discussed?

It would indeed be a way to save the received time in the headers.
But what if some server had its time set somewhere in the future?
Then TB!, looking for the latest time in the Received: headers,
would find this future time...

Regards

Peter
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