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Hi Thomas,

@02 August 2002, 17:06 +0700 (11:06 UK time)  Thomas F. [TF] in
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TF> I pay THB 35/hr (about ¤ 0.80/hr). My average download speed is a low
TF> 1KB/sec. With the volume of this list, how much do these headers and
TF> footers cost me?

Headers: 453 bytes
Footers: 322 bytes

So, at 1KB/sec that means a .775 second overhead per message to you.
That's ¤ 0.000222 per message.

When the smallest posting is 2259 bytes and the average looks to be
around 3480, 775 bytes added by headers and footers represents a
28.65% average overhead. That is significant.

TF> If one posting of average length came in by HTML per day, how much
TF> would that cost me?

A whole lot more, although HTML is not allowed on this list.

G>> As for the footers I would suggest a link to the website with
G>> instructions.

TF> It is difficult enough to get people to read the footers.

Precisely.

TF> But at least we haven't had a "unsubscribe" message to the list
TF> (followed by long threads consisting of flames and ridicule) for a
TF> while.

One very good reason for that is that the server is primed to
intercept the simpler versions of these and throw the out for
moderation. I see quite a few.

However, the information in the footer has grown in accordance with
requests. This is the information that the consensus of members wanted
to see per-message.

Let's see what we're saying and what could be expendable (I reject the
notion of a link to a list of footer information as being too obtuse a
way of conveying it).

     Current Ver: 1.61

This prevents the FAQ of "I've seen people using version (blah),
what's the latest official release".

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Has to be said here as a reminder to where basic information can be
found.

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Has to be said here.

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This could be dispensable, but it's not much bandwidth for a useful
link that has every relevance.

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This could go, I suppose.

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This was asked for over and over so we added it.

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This could go and is more relevant to TBBETA but it does have some
pertinence here.

The bottom line is that I sincerely believe there should be a footer
but am open to suggestions about what is or is not vital information
in it.

TF> The probability that people follow links is a lot less than
TF> that for reading the footer.

I agree although we added the headers because this is the TB list and
TB features support for these headers. We *should* use them here, if
only to show them off ;-).

- --
Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator
TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2
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