As long as "certification" is based solely on taking classes 
and passing tests, the only thing it tells you is that the 
person holding it took classes and retained the information 
long enough to pass the tests.  If the certification is like a PE
license that requires time OTJ and endorsements that verify
the person has effectively worked in the areas covered by
the certification, that is potentially a different matter.  But
OTOH, every collapsed bridge you ever saw or heard 
about on the news was designed and/or approved by a 
licensed PE...

Gene Kim-Eng


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Swallow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I'll agree that some certifications are bunk, but I disagree with you
> about PMP. The trick with any certification though is that those with
> them perform better if their supervisors either understand the
> certification or hold it themselves. It's the whole accountability
> issue and has very little to do with the certification itself.


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