On 13 October 2014 11:37, Joe Touch <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> That requires TCP-level indication that TLS is being used. That requires
> indicating the use of the additional layer of TLS somewhere - in the
> port number, in a TCP option, etc. - but NOT in the data stream because
> AFAICT we can't tell the difference between TCP-level TLS and userland TLS.

That's not a huge problem.  An indication would be beneficial, or
perhaps more appropriately, a control knob to disable TCPINC.  That
would allow people to avoid having two layers of TLS, but at worst
it's merely suboptimal to have two layers.  I don't see there being
any fundamental problem with having two layers of protection.

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