* Thomas King <king at t-king.de> [2006-04-26 13:04:33]:

> On Wednesday 26 April 2006 01:26, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 12:37:23AM +0200, Thomas King wrote:
> > > > > Yes, STUN is easily doable with Java. All you need are UDP packets. I
> > > > > already started implementing a STUN library a few month ago because I
> > > > > would like to use such a library in another tool. So far, the basic
> > > > > stuff is implemented. However, I would like to develop additional
> > > > > features.
> > > >
> > > > Excellent. There aren't any existing libraries we could use? There are
> > > > for UP&P...
> > >
> > > A few month ago, I was looking for a STUN library. During my search I
> > > found one STUN library. The library was a quick hack and unmaintained, so
> > > I decided to develop my own STUN library.
> > > There are a few UPnP-libraries out there. I think one of my SoC tasks
> > > should be to evaluate the different libraries. If a particular library is
> > > appropriate (regarding features, sourcecode quality, and license) I
> > > should add this library. If I cannot find an appropriate library
> > > (probably very unlikely) I should develop my own UPnP-library.
> >
> > Completely agree. As long as we get our (Google's) money's worth, I
> > don't mind if your main project happens more quickly than expected; you
> > can then work on other stuff.
> 
> I see your concerns and hence I checked the SoC2005 website to see how much 
> work have been done by other projects in 2005. For instance, there were two 
> projects for gaim. One student implemented STUN/SIP/Simple and another 
> studenten implemented UPnP for gaim. So, I guess it should be enough work for 
> a Soc2006 project to add STUN/UPnP to freenet.
> However, could you please provide me a hint where I can find more information 
> about ARKs. Probably I should consider implementing ARKs as well? I like the 
> basic idea of ARKs, however, I think my understanding of ARKs is not deep 
> enough to make a decision.

imho Up&p and stun are useless without multi-homming support.

Concerning STUN, in .5 we were using a dns root server to detect our external IP
. That's what STUN will provide, right?. See 
https://emu.freenetproject.org/svn/branches/legacy/unstable/src/freenet/node/IPAddressDetector.java
 and oldDetect().

And concerning UP&P ... you know my thought.

NextGen$

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