* Daniel Cheng <j16sdiz+freenet at gmail.com> [2008-05-14 08:26:54]:

> On 5/14/08, Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> wrote:
> > On Tuesday 13 May 2008 14:36, Dan.Bruce at gmail.com wrote:
> > > Some times it needs a bit of discussion to be able to make idea's come
> > > clear, lol, I am bad for missing a few steps in the thought process and
> > > jumping over them.
> > >
> > > The first is FreeNet allows for a couple ways to be set up. As an OPEN
> > > NET concept and it also allows for establishing a Private Network that
> > > literally does not connect to anyone but a secured group, 10 People can
> > > use it to establish a private Internet of there own and quite literally
> > > ignore the fact there is an internet.
> >
> > Not true. Lots and lots of people seem to not get the darknet concept. Just
> > because you only connect to your trusted friends, does not mean that your
> > friends only connect to YOUR trusted friends: they will connect to THEIR
> > trusted friends, which may not be the same as yours, although there will be 
> > a
> > good deal of overlap. Some of them may connect to the opennet, but even
> > without that, it is possible to have a global darknet. And to have it
> > routable, hopefully, in a reasonably small number of hops (= good
> > performance), with Freenet 0.7.
> 
> Darknet user have to be motivated to add new trusted friends, and
> their friends have to be motivated too. We don't have enough motivated
> users..
> 
> In my experience, I have *tried* to convince two friends to run
> freenet. One of them refused because of the disk space usage (this is
> a lame reason, but still). The another friend installed that (and
> found the installation quite managable), considered to add some
> content, but don't want to start it because of the high memory usage.
> I am too depressed to try to convince another friends.
> 
> If we want a real working darknet, I think we have to (sort from
> lowest to highest priority):
>   1) lower the memory usage (0.7.1 ?)
> 

Here freenet takes less RAM than firefox.

>   2) easier friend finding.
>       There was a facebook app for this, but it's not working.
> 
>   3) small (<128MiB) store mode
>       Currently freenet is very slow without a good store/cache.

It can't possibly work without request resuming: such a small store will
be poisoned by your requests.
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