* Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2008-05-14 13:26:01]:
> On Wednesday 14 May 2008 03:18, Florent Daigni?re wrote: > > * Daniel Cheng <j16sdiz+freenet at gmail.com> [2008-05-14 08:26:54]: > > > > > On 5/14/08, Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 13 May 2008 14:36, Dan.Bruce at gmail.com wrote: > > > > > Some times it needs a bit of discussion to be able to make idea's come > > > > > clear, lol, I am bad for missing a few steps in the thought process > and > > > > > jumping over them. > > > > > > > > > > The first is FreeNet allows for a couple ways to be set up. As an OPEN > > > > > NET concept and it also allows for establishing a Private Network that > > > > > literally does not connect to anyone but a secured group, 10 People > can > > > > > use it to establish a private Internet of there own and quite > literally > > > > > ignore the fact there is an internet. > > > > > > > > Not true. Lots and lots of people seem to not get the darknet concept. > Just > > > > because you only connect to your trusted friends, does not mean that > your > > > > friends only connect to YOUR trusted friends: they will connect to THEIR > > > > trusted friends, which may not be the same as yours, although there > > > > will > be a > > > > good deal of overlap. Some of them may connect to the opennet, but even > > > > without that, it is possible to have a global darknet. And to have it > > > > routable, hopefully, in a reasonably small number of hops (= good > > > > performance), with Freenet 0.7. > > > > > > Darknet user have to be motivated to add new trusted friends, and > > > their friends have to be motivated too. We don't have enough motivated > > > users.. > > > > > > In my experience, I have *tried* to convince two friends to run > > > freenet. One of them refused because of the disk space usage (this is > > > a lame reason, but still). The another friend installed that (and > > > found the installation quite managable), considered to add some > > > content, but don't want to start it because of the high memory usage. > > > I am too depressed to try to convince another friends. > > > > > > If we want a real working darknet, I think we have to (sort from > > > lowest to highest priority): > > > 1) lower the memory usage (0.7.1 ?) > > > > > > > Here freenet takes less RAM than firefox. > > > > > 2) easier friend finding. > > > There was a facebook app for this, but it's not working. > > > > > > 3) small (<128MiB) store mode > > > Currently freenet is very slow without a good store/cache. > > > > It can't possibly work without request resuming: such a small store will > > be poisoned by your requests. > > > Request resuming is well up the priority list too, in fact it's a > prerequisite > for queue-on-disk imho. That's weird how point of views can differ. I could understand why queue-on-disk would be a prerequisite to request resuming... definitely not the other way around. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/tech/attachments/20080514/fd35d352/attachment.pgp>
