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Josh Luthman
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On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Matt Hoppes <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Nowhere did anyone mention Telrad. Does someone have a guilty conscience?
>
> Telrad was assumed. It could be Ericsson, Hauwai, AlLu.
>
> > On Jul 26, 2016, at 19:55, Nathan Anderson <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Matt,
> >
> > I'm sure Nick is referring to a certain Facebook post, made by a certain
> competitor's official FB account, which you yourself responded to a couple
> of hours ago, so I'm not sure how you managed to forget about it so soon?
> >
> > -- Nathan
> > ________________________________________
> > From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> Matt Hoppes [[email protected]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 4:55 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Telrad] Telrad Digest, Vol 21, Issue 20
> >
> > I'm not sure any competitor said this. I asked a question about CPEs.
> I'm not aware that any competitor has said Telrad doesn't support 3rd party
> CPEs.
> >
> > I heard that from someone who was looking at possibly using Telrad and
> that was a concern of theirs.
> >
> > On Jul 26, 2016, at 18:55, Nick Dewar <[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > It has come to my attention that a competitor has made allegations about
> Telrad being nonstandard. I would like to state that these allegations are
> false, ill-informed and irresponsible
> >
> > The Telrad EPC is 100% standards compliant as is our eNodeB and UEs.
> Anytime you work in a multi-vendor environment there is an IOT process
> which needs to be managed on a per release level.  In our new EPC build we
> have added several features per standard.  Anyone operating a third party
> eNodeB with a partial standard implementation could potentially encounter
> issues hence the need for an IOT process.
> >
> > We are indeed working in scaled networks with tier 1 vendor eNodeB , EPC
> and UE at this time so the standards allegation frankly holds no water
> >
> > Any questions please feel free to reach out
> >
> > Thanks
> > Nick
> >
> > From: Nick Dewar
> > Sent: July 26, 2016 5:01 PM
> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: Telrad Digest, Vol 21, Issue 20
> >
> >
> > Neil - compact 3000 does not yet support 4x4 TM4. This is stated in
> release notes
> >
> > Matt C - I'm reaching out to you offline to review 4x4 results between
> 3874 and 4013
> >
> > Telrad enodeb supports third party UE so not sure where that assumption
> comes from. We have commercial networks deployed with various vendor UE.
> >
> > Thx
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> >
> >
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> > Date: 2016-07-26 16:29 (GMT-06:00)
> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> > Subject: Telrad Digest, Vol 21, Issue 20
> >
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> > Today's Topics:
> >
> >   1. Re: 4x4 (Matthew Carpenter)
> >   2. Other CPEs (Matt Hoppes)
> >   3. Re: Other CPEs (Josh Luthman)
> >   4. Re: Other CPEs (Matthew Carpenter)
> >   5. Re: 4x4 (Matthew Carpenter)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 14:54:42 -0500
> > From: Matthew Carpenter <[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>>
> > Subject: Re: [Telrad] 4x4
> > To: Telrad List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> > Message-ID:
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> >
> > Really!  Okay I am seeing the same issues on 4x4TM4 mode.  I will change
> > one tonight and see if that fixes it.
> >
> > Matt Carpenter
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Neil Smellie <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >>
> >> That was our experience. Throughput was cut in half,  we are using
> Compact
> >> 3000's though.
> >>
> >> 2X4 seems better
> >>
> >> Neil
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Terry Duchcherer <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Has anyone experienced throughput issues with 4x4TM4? We changed three
> >>> sectors and all of them experienced slow throughputs. Have gone to 2x4
> now
> >>> with ports 3&4 receive only.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Terry
> >>>
> >>> NETAGO
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *From:* [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> [mailto:[email protected]] *On
> >>> Behalf Of *Jeremy Austin
> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 26, 2016 12:26 PM
> >>> *To:* [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [Telrad] 4x4
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Dan Petermann <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Any idea why I am getting the error on one sector?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> What Topology do you have chosen under Deployment?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On mine, I'm using 4x4TM4.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Jeremy Austin
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> (907) 895-2311
> >>>
> >>> (907) 803-5422
> >>>
> >>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Heritage NetWorks
> >>>
> >>> Whitestone Power & Communications
> >>>
> >>> Vertical Broadband, LLC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Schedule a meeting: http://doodle.com/jermudgeon
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Telrad mailing list
> >>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/telrad
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Neil Smellie
> >> Core Broadband Inc.
> >> Interactive North
> >> 27 Dominion Street
> >> Bracebridge ON P1L 2A6
> >> 705-224-2673 ext 102
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Telrad mailing list
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> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/telrad
> >
> >
> > --
> > *Matthew Carpenter*
> > *806-316-5071 office*
> > *806-236-9558 cell*
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 17:19:25 -0400
> > From: Matt Hoppes <[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>>
> > Subject: [Telrad] Other CPEs
> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
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> > Is it true Telrad doesn't support third party CPE devices?
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 17:22:00 -0400
> > From: Josh Luthman <[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>>
> > Subject: Re: [Telrad] Other CPEs
> > To: telrad <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> > Message-ID:
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> > Uh I thought they were LTE?
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > On Jul 26, 2016 5:19 PM, "Matt Hoppes" <
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]
> >>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Is it true Telrad doesn't support third party CPE devices?
> >> _______________________________________________
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 16:23:47 -0500
> > From: Matthew Carpenter <[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>>
> > Subject: Re: [Telrad] Other CPEs
> > To: Telrad List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
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> >
> > ?From my testing I am able to get 3rd party UE's to connect and work
> fine.
> > 3rd party eNB's will no longer connect to the EPC as of 6.6 release.
> >
> > Matt Carpenter
> >
> > ?
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Josh Luthman <
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Uh I thought they were LTE?
> >>
> >> Josh Luthman
> >> Office: 937-552-2340
> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >> 1100 Wayne St
> >> Suite 1337
> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >>
> >> On Jul 26, 2016 5:19 PM, "Matt Hoppes" <
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Is it true Telrad doesn't support third party CPE devices?
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Telrad mailing list
> >>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/telrad
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >
> >
> > --
> > *Matthew Carpenter*
> > *806-316-5071 office*
> > *806-236-9558 cell*
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 16:29:05 -0500
> > From: Matthew Carpenter <[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>>
> > Subject: Re: [Telrad] 4x4
> > To: Telrad List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> > Message-ID:
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> > Updates:
> > I have an eNB with version 0606.03874 in 4x4TM4 mode and have not seen
> the
> > speed issues.
> > Another eNB with version 0606.04013 in 4x4TM4 mode is having the speed
> > issues.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Matthew Carpenter <
> > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Really!  Okay I am seeing the same issues on 4x4TM4 mode.  I will change
> >> one tonight and see if that fixes it.
> >>
> >> Matt Carpenter
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Neil Smellie <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> That was our experience. Throughput was cut in half,  we are using
> >>> Compact 3000's though.
> >>>
> >>> 2X4 seems better
> >>>
> >>> Neil
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Terry Duchcherer <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Has anyone experienced throughput issues with 4x4TM4? We changed three
> >>>> sectors and all of them experienced slow throughputs. Have gone to
> 2x4 now
> >>>> with ports 3&4 receive only.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Terry
> >>>>
> >>>> NETAGO
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> *From:* [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> [mailto:[email protected]] *On
> >>>> Behalf Of *Jeremy Austin
> >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 26, 2016 12:26 PM
> >>>> *To:* [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Telrad] 4x4
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Dan Petermann <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Any idea why I am getting the error on one sector?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> What Topology do you have chosen under Deployment?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On mine, I'm using 4x4TM4.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> Jeremy Austin
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> (907) 895-2311
> >>>>
> >>>> (907) 803-5422
> >>>>
> >>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Heritage NetWorks
> >>>>
> >>>> Whitestone Power & Communications
> >>>>
> >>>> Vertical Broadband, LLC
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Schedule a meeting: http://doodle.com/jermudgeon
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Telrad mailing list
> >>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/telrad
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Neil Smellie
> >>> Core Broadband Inc.
> >>> Interactive North
> >>> 27 Dominion Street
> >>> Bracebridge ON P1L 2A6
> >>> 705-224-2673 ext 102
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Telrad mailing list
> >>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/telrad
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> *Matthew Carpenter*
> >> *806-316-5071 <806-316-5071> office*
> >> *806-236-9558 <806-236-9558> cell*
> >
> >
> > --
> > *Matthew Carpenter*
> > *806-316-5071 office*
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