Uh, I don't work for Telrad...

What else could Nick have been referring to in his response though? I think it 
was pretty clear.

-- Nathan

Matt Hoppes <[email protected]> wrote:


Nowhere did anyone mention Telrad. Does someone have a guilty conscience?

Telrad was assumed. It could be Ericsson, Hauwai, AlLu.

> On Jul 26, 2016, at 19:55, Nathan Anderson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Matt,
>
> I'm sure Nick is referring to a certain Facebook post, made by a certain 
> competitor's official FB account, which you yourself responded to a couple of 
> hours ago, so I'm not sure how you managed to forget about it so soon?
>
> -- Nathan
> ________________________________________
> From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt 
> Hoppes [[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 4:55 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Telrad] Telrad Digest, Vol 21, Issue 20
>
> I'm not sure any competitor said this. I asked a question about CPEs. I'm not 
> aware that any competitor has said Telrad doesn't support 3rd party CPEs.
>
> I heard that from someone who was looking at possibly using Telrad and that 
> was a concern of theirs.
>
> On Jul 26, 2016, at 18:55, Nick Dewar 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> It has come to my attention that a competitor has made allegations about 
> Telrad being nonstandard. I would like to state that these allegations are 
> false, ill-informed and irresponsible
>
> The Telrad EPC is 100% standards compliant as is our eNodeB and UEs.  Anytime 
> you work in a multi-vendor environment there is an IOT process which needs to 
> be managed on a per release level.  In our new EPC build we have added 
> several features per standard.  Anyone operating a third party eNodeB with a 
> partial standard implementation could potentially encounter issues hence the 
> need for an IOT process.
>
> We are indeed working in scaled networks with tier 1 vendor eNodeB , EPC and 
> UE at this time so the standards allegation frankly holds no water
>
> Any questions please feel free to reach out
>
> Thanks
> Nick
>
> From: Nick Dewar
> Sent: July 26, 2016 5:01 PM
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Telrad Digest, Vol 21, Issue 20
>
>
> Neil - compact 3000 does not yet support 4x4 TM4. This is stated in release 
> notes
>
> Matt C - I'm reaching out to you offline to review 4x4 results between 3874 
> and 4013
>
> Telrad enodeb supports third party UE so not sure where that assumption comes 
> from. We have commercial networks deployed with various vendor UE.
>
> Thx
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>
>
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> Date: 2016-07-26 16:29 (GMT-06:00)
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Telrad Digest, Vol 21, Issue 20
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>   1. Re: 4x4 (Matthew Carpenter)
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>   3. Re: Other CPEs (Josh Luthman)
>   4. Re: Other CPEs (Matthew Carpenter)
>   5. Re: 4x4 (Matthew Carpenter)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 14:54:42 -0500
> From: Matthew Carpenter 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: Re: [Telrad] 4x4
> To: Telrad List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
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> Really!  Okay I am seeing the same issues on 4x4TM4 mode.  I will change
> one tonight and see if that fixes it.
>
> Matt Carpenter
>
>
>
>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Neil Smellie 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>> That was our experience. Throughput was cut in half,  we are using Compact
>> 3000's though.
>>
>> 2X4 seems better
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Terry Duchcherer 
>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Has anyone experienced throughput issues with 4x4TM4? We changed three
>>> sectors and all of them experienced slow throughputs. Have gone to 2x4 now
>>> with ports 3&4 receive only.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Terry
>>>
>>> NETAGO
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Jeremy Austin
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 26, 2016 12:26 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Telrad] 4x4
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Dan Petermann 
>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Any idea why I am getting the error on one sector?
>>>
>>>
>>> What Topology do you have chosen under Deployment?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On mine, I'm using 4x4TM4.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Jeremy Austin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (907) 895-2311
>>>
>>> (907) 803-5422
>>>
>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Heritage NetWorks
>>>
>>> Whitestone Power & Communications
>>>
>>> Vertical Broadband, LLC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Schedule a meeting: http://doodle.com/jermudgeon
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Neil Smellie
>> Core Broadband Inc.
>> Interactive North
>> 27 Dominion Street
>> Bracebridge ON P1L 2A6
>> 705-224-2673 ext 102
>>
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>
>
> --
> *Matthew Carpenter*
> *806-316-5071 office*
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> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 17:19:25 -0400
> From: Matt Hoppes 
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> Subject: [Telrad] Other CPEs
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
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> Is it true Telrad doesn't support third party CPE devices?
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 17:22:00 -0400
> From: Josh Luthman 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: Re: [Telrad] Other CPEs
> To: telrad <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
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> Uh I thought they were LTE?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Jul 26, 2016 5:19 PM, "Matt Hoppes" 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> wrote:
>
>> Is it true Telrad doesn't support third party CPE devices?
>> _______________________________________________
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> Subject: Re: [Telrad] Other CPEs
> To: Telrad List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
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> ?From my testing I am able to get 3rd party UE's to connect and work fine.
> 3rd party eNB's will no longer connect to the EPC as of 6.6 release.
>
> Matt Carpenter
>
> ?
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Josh Luthman 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> wrote:
>
>> Uh I thought they were LTE?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Jul 26, 2016 5:19 PM, "Matt Hoppes" 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is it true Telrad doesn't support third party CPE devices?
>>> _______________________________________________
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> --
> *Matthew Carpenter*
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> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 16:29:05 -0500
> From: Matthew Carpenter 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: Re: [Telrad] 4x4
> To: Telrad List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
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> Updates:
> I have an eNB with version 0606.03874 in 4x4TM4 mode and have not seen the
> speed issues.
> Another eNB with version 0606.04013 in 4x4TM4 mode is having the speed
> issues.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Matthew Carpenter <
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
> wrote:
>
>> Really!  Okay I am seeing the same issues on 4x4TM4 mode.  I will change
>> one tonight and see if that fixes it.
>>
>> Matt Carpenter
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Neil Smellie 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That was our experience. Throughput was cut in half,  we are using
>>> Compact 3000's though.
>>>
>>> 2X4 seems better
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Terry Duchcherer 
>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Has anyone experienced throughput issues with 4x4TM4? We changed three
>>>> sectors and all of them experienced slow throughputs. Have gone to 2x4 now
>>>> with ports 3&4 receive only.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Terry
>>>>
>>>> NETAGO
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Jeremy Austin
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 26, 2016 12:26 PM
>>>> *To:* [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Telrad] 4x4
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Dan Petermann 
>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Any idea why I am getting the error on one sector?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What Topology do you have chosen under Deployment?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On mine, I'm using 4x4TM4.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Jeremy Austin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (907) 895-2311
>>>>
>>>> (907) 803-5422
>>>>
>>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Heritage NetWorks
>>>>
>>>> Whitestone Power & Communications
>>>>
>>>> Vertical Broadband, LLC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Schedule a meeting: http://doodle.com/jermudgeon
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Telrad mailing list
>>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/telrad
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Neil Smellie
>>> Core Broadband Inc.
>>> Interactive North
>>> 27 Dominion Street
>>> Bracebridge ON P1L 2A6
>>> 705-224-2673 ext 102
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Telrad mailing list
>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/telrad
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Matthew Carpenter*
>> *806-316-5071 <806-316-5071> office*
>> *806-236-9558 <806-236-9558> cell*
>
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