>From my experience in conducting it is very helpful for the orientation in a >score to see the transposing instruments with different "Vorzeichen" than the >non- transposing instruments. For me this notation is the natural one.
regards Christof -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 15:11:51 +0200 > Von: "Cornelius C. Noack" <no...@itp.uni-bremen.de> > An: Werner Icking Music Archive > <icking-music-archive.org-tex-music@mailman.nfit.au.dk> > Betreff: Re: [TeX-Music] Transposition with abcpp and pmx > On Sat, 4 Apr 2009, Don Simons wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:34:45 -0700 > > From: Don Simons <dsim...@roadrunner.com> > > Subject: Re: [TeX-Music] Transposition with abcpp and pmx > > > > Naturally when I saw Luigi's posting (which BTW I understood clearly; no > > need to apologize for the English) I wondered how much work it would be > to > > make PMX do this. I'll give it some more thought. As usual I'd have to > > re-educate myself about what PMX does now under transposition, and also > > explore MusiXTeX capabilities in this area. I'd have to do some pretty > > serious empirical research to work out how to make MusiXTeX transpose > > different parts by different amounts. Also, it's not obvious to me that > > everyone would always want to enter all parts in concert key; would > anyone > > ever want to enter parts in their transposed keys? > > > > --Don Simons > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: icking-music-archive.org-tex-music-boun...@mailman.nfit.au.dk > >> [mailto:icking-music-archive.org-tex-music-boun...@mailman.nfit.au.dk] > >> On Behalf Of Christian Mondrup > >> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 10:43 AM > >> To: Werner Icking Music Archive > >> Subject: Re: [TeX-Music] Transposition with abcpp and pmx > >> > >> Luigi Cataldi wrote: > >>> Dear all, > >>> > >>> I've found a *not so polish* trick in order to keep the advantage of > >> the > >>> first method when we need to use the second one, with the aid of the > >>> abcpp preprocessor. Abcpp allows to define different note names and > >>> conditional output. So we have to: > >>> 1) define a set of note names for the first transposing instrument (XA > >> = > >>> f, XB = g etc.) and another one for the second (YA = c, YB = d etc.); > >>> 2) set in conditional way a different definition of the same symbols > >> (XA > >>> = a, YA = a) so that if TRASP is defined the output will be transposed > >>> and if not the output will not be transposed; > >>> 3) Typeset the transposing parts with relative accidents and in > >>> different ways (XA, XB or YA, YB etc). > >>> 4) compile with the command > >>> 'abcpp -TRASP sample.pmp sample_tr.pmx' > >>> in order to obtain the score to print in editorial way > >>> 5) compile with the command > >>> 'abcpp sample.pmp sample.pmx' > >>> in order to obtain the score not transposed and > >>> the extracted (if needed transposed) parts. > >> > First of all, many thanks to Luigi for dealing with this problem > and coming up with a solution! Ever since I wrote down Mozart's > Mauerische Trauermusik in PMX (6 years ago, to the memory of Daniel > Taupin in WIMA), I had been bothered by this problem. > > Now, to Don's question: IMHO both version are needed, or at least > useful! For the non-professional reader of a score, seeing the > written notes the way they sound in reality is certainly an > advantage. The professional conductor, however, is quite used to > earing in his mind the written transposed notes as they sound in > reality, and would possibly find seeing them non-transposed an > inconvenience in discussing the music with the instrumentalists > during rehearsal. > In fact, most printed scores (even pocket scores) use the > transposed notes for the transposing instruments (These editorial > usages become really awkard, BTW , in contemporary music where you > may see a voice simply named 'clarinet' , leaving the reader with > sometimes extended research into whether the composer meant a > clarinet in B flat or E flat or else, transposed or non-transposed, > for example, with no accidentals to help her decide!). > > So I would love to see a simple general PMX option to choose one > or the other of the 2 notations. > > ccn. > -- > ................................................................. > > Prof.Dr. Cornelius C. Noack Phones: > Inst. f. Theor. Physik FB 1 office : +49 (421) 218-2427 > Universit"at Bremen secretary: -2422 > Otto-Hahn-Allee Fax : -4869 > D - 28334 Bremen home : +49 (421) 34 22 36 > Fax: 346 7872 > E-mail: noack at itp.uni-bremen.de or ccnoack at mailaps.org > WWW-page: www.itp.uni-bremen.de/~noack > ................................................................. > _______________________________________________ > tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list > If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to > http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music _______________________________________________ tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music
