Volunteers get to say they did. I'm good with that.

On Jul 13, 2009, at 7:28 PM, Jon wrote:

So how much time should a volunteer put in to get a free pass?
One day work?  But want about those that have worked for a week?
But then there is the person that did help that afternoon with all that tot-and-carry. shouldn't they also get a free pass? Or maybe if you are just an officer like a sec or president? Maybe it should be folks that put in a lot of hard work, or maybe not. maybe those that put in long hours and didn't sweat? It gets so hard to draw that line. I wouldn't want to point to one and say you pay and the other and say your free.
We all pay but then some get to be called "Volunteers".


--- On Mon, 7/13/09, Travis Scott <tra...@oztotl.com> wrote:

From: Travis Scott <tra...@oztotl.com>
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] ICS
To:
Cc: "Cavers, Texas" <Texascavers@texascavers.com>
Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 8:34 AM

Everyone, just to make it clear and ease any unnecessary frustration, the volunteers that are using this "special registration" are only allowed to assist in leading trips, or whatever they have volunteered to do. They do not get to go to the parties, talks, and other events that the paying folk will get to enjoy. So don't feel like they are "getting a free ride" into the ICS, they are very limited on what they can do.

They were given the registration to cover them under ICS insurance so that they could help us lead the trips. In fact, without these people, there would be half of the caving trips that we have offered. So if you pay the $15 and go caving, chances are that the trip you are on is ONLY possible because of some of these volunteers, so be thankful! They are playing a large role in the ICS that many of the paid people aren't willing or able to do.

Travis

Don Cooper wrote:

Yeah, well maybe we should, but we're not. Perhaps I could have volunteered through the whole thing and not registered, but not with my head held high. Not when so many others HAVE paid essentially to work for free.

-WaV

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Lyndon Tiu <l...@alumni.sfu.ca> wrote:
They should be registering--and paying. No free ride here, boy howdy.


I don't think anyone is getting a free ride, they are helping the ICS but are NOT getting any of the benefits of a paid ICS registration (parties, free beer, banquets, etc.).

We should be glad they are giving some of their time to help the ICS for free.

FYI: I am registered (I paid my $200 back in Dec 2008) ... but I think volunteers should get a free ride. But that's totally my opinion.



On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Lyndon Tiu <l...@alumni.sfu.ca <mailto:l...@alumni.sfu.ca >> wrote:

   Plus the many Texas cavers who are volunteering (cave trip
leaders/van drivers/Aggies) but are not registering. They count too.


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Lyndon Tiu

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