Sorry Kara, and to answer the poll, I do not, it's a hassle and I know its no excuse, but it's not "convenient" which is what most people have problems with. I do ask for no sack when I'm picking things up most of the time, because its usually 1 or 2 items.
Charles On 1/14/08, Kara Savvas <misskarabi...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Whew, I went back to work today and it took a lot out of me. (Thanks, Don, I > know there are lots of folks who would have helped if they could) > > I don't really think the new angle on texascavers is going to work they > shiny new way people think it will... I think squashing all the interesting > bits is actually quite a disservice to the caving community, and I also > don't think it will be enforced very well, just complained about a lot, and > eventually get back to the way it was. I also have doubts in the viability > of a split list, but participation is Key, and that's why I'm writting > right now. I fear this approach is not very ... unifying, and quite > dividing, but our behavior can temper that. But those are my dissapointments > with it, and I'm not going to waste a lot of time Kevetching. I still really > appreciate what Charles did for us. > > I consider this more of a Caver Lifestyle Forum. I don't see it as a place > to totally rip loose, or insult anyone not in my club, but that gets > moderated naturally. For example, the way you responded to the creationist > thread, Don, makes it really tempting for me to just delete what you write > before I read it. With all due respect, the intolerance for that behavior, > no matter who you aimed it at, whack or not, stressed or not, was well > placed. The biggest problem with the internet is that people can be reduced > to 0's and 1's... you have to go the extra mile to remember there are real > people behind all the words and glowing screens, just like you - and > remember that your actions on the internet are still real, and effect the > way people will feel about you for real. In my opinion, when it comes to the > internet, there are just different and more personal-responsibility type of > ways of not tolerating something.... like the delete key. People become > irrelevant through flame wars, not subject matter. > > Well anyway, I want to make it fun to be here, and productive. Earlier, I > had asked if anyone was using fabric bags when they go shopping, a sort of > poll. I think maybe I asked before there were too many people here. Please > speak up! Even if you don't. Sometimes I wonder if doing it really even > helps anything... > > I started with one little bag that folds up small and fits in my purse, so I > have it ready whenever I use it. Then I went to a conference and all the > gift bags were fabric shopping bags, so I scored a collection of great bags > really fast for free. I like not collecting crappy plastic bags, although I > still have quite a number. I don't always remember to have the bags with me > when I hit the store. > > so what do you think? anyone one else giving it a try? Thoughts? > > Kara > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Don Cooper <wavyca...@gmail.com> > To: Simon Newton <csnew...@gmail.com> > Cc: "Savaas, Kara" <misskarabi...@yahoo.com> > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 4:00:17 PM > Subject: Re: [ot_caving] [OT] Re: anyone else here yet? > > Less Fuddy! And much much less Duddy! > > Kara- > > I am very glad you are all doing well. Had I been two hundred miles closer > - you know I would have brought soup and juice. > > It occured to me through the 'controversy' - that your post asking for help > was completely off topic and 'against the rules' having "nothing to do with > caves or caving". That in itself is proof that this listserver has done far > more than just its stated purpose. Though I might have stepped out of line > by calling names at creationists (stressing out over the move process - I > just had to let off a little steam at what I consider MOST absurd) - the > negative feedback I got really makes me aware of intolerance of some in 'the > community' and I'm very thankful that Charles saw to it to create a sidestep > solution - sliding that platform out from under 'The Authoritative' of us. > > Oh - and on that topic again. About the re-usable bags. I have a sewing > machine. I really ought to make some! I have only one of them - I got from > years and years ago - and for the longest time its been in my trunk as a > holder for monster jumper cables. > > -WaVy > > > > On Jan 14, 2008 3:42 PM, Simon Newton <csnew...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > So this is where all the cool people are. > > > > Simon > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Kara Savvas <misskarabi...@yahoo.com> > > To: o...@texascavers.com > > Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:54:42 -0800 (PST) > > Subject: anyone else here yet? > > I'm here... anyone else? Let's get this party started. > > > > Tell me something off topic :-) > > > > Here's one - a poll - > > Does anyone try to use or regularly use canvas or reusable bags when > > grocery shopping? > > > > I do, but forget them at home occasionally. The checkers don't usually > > know what to make of it. If you're interested in trying to do this > > more, we should talk about it, I have some tips. > > > > By the way, I'm feeling better - getting over it, and the baby is > > fine. I'm going to put in an appearance at work tomorrow for a few > > hours. Looking forward to interacting with the world again. > > > > take care, > > Kara > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > > For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it > now.
