Ed Goff said:

>I think I remember being more exhausted after a push trip past the Mile Long 
>Crawl. I still haven't ever done the through trip--maybe that's harder.

      I agree that going beyond the Mile-long Crawl in Honey Creek is more 
tiring than going to the sump.  I've been both places several times.  The 
through trip is nothing!  Back in the days before the shaft we explored from 
the natural entrance to way past the original water divide.  That involved the 
equivalent of _two_ through trips, plus lots more caving.  The harder parts 
were further in, of course, so by the time we got back to where the shaft is 
now, it seemed like we were practically out.

Mark Minton

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