We have a guest room w/ telephone and cable tv. Hot tub, starz, 2 horses 
and 4 dogs in a really nice house 4 minutes from the airport. Oh and we 
do pick up and delivery.
Felicia

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>   4. TSA Officers Election - Candidates (Goff, Ed)
>   5. Stenlight  S7 (Bill Mixon)
>   6. Re: TSA Officers Election - Candidates (Kara Dittmer)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:50:10 +0100
>From: Melanie Alspaugh <mela...@alspaugh.ch>
>Subject: [Texascavers] to Austin cavers...
>To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
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>HI all, 
>
>I'll be flying into Austin next Wednesday, won't make the Grotto meeting but 
>will try to get to the Posse. 
>I'm looking for a place to stay Wednesday and maybe Thursday. Any takers 
>(givers?!)? Please let me know offline. I'll be in Texas until the 30th, going 
>between my mom's in SA and Austin. I look forward to seeing as many of you as 
>possible!
>
>Melanie
>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 05:53:55 -0800 (PST)
>From: Mark Alman <texascav...@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Activities Newsletter Returns :
>To: jerryat...@aol.com, Texascavers@texascavers.com
>Message-ID: <20051111135355.72516.qm...@web52808.mail.yahoo.com>
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>Nice job on the newsletter, Jerry! Very thorough and informative.
> 
>Has any thought been given to having the Texas Caver available for viewing and 
>downloading online for PAID TSA members?
> 
>For those that want this option, it would save on postage and printing costs 
>and the savings could be used for cave preservation and acquisition.
> 
>Just my 1/50th of a dollar.
> 
>Keep up the good work!
> 
>Mark Alman
> 
>
>
>jerryat...@aol.com wrote:
>At the TSA Business meeting held at this years' TCR, the membership decided 
>to resurrect the TSA Activities Newsletter. 
>The November 2005 issue of the ANL is available for downloading at :
>
>http://www.cavetexas.org/anl.html
>
>It is the intent of the editor to post the ANL monthly to the TSA website. 
>Due to the prohibitive cost of printing and mailing a monthly hardcopy 
>publication, the ANL will be distributed to all cavers in a digital pdf format 
>which 
>can be downloaded free-of-charge from the TSA website at : 
>http://www.cavetexas.org/
>
>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:42:52 -0600
>From: "Ranzau, Joe" <joe.ran...@usaa.com>
>Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Activities Newsletter Returns :
>To: "Mark Alman" <texascav...@yahoo.com>, <jerryat...@aol.com>,
>       <Texascavers@texascavers.com>
>Message-ID:
>       <8afb3adab2b1954687a1f05aaa6293e110a39...@ex03.eagle.usaa.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain;      charset="US-ASCII"
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>I would say there has been huge conversations and debates around this
>issue at TSA meetings and among past and present officers...  Currently
>the consensus I remember is that to make it available on-line would be
>an all or nothing thing.  We run so close to the bulk mail discount that
>removing people from the mailing causes a large increase in postage for
>the remaining issues being mailed.  The way the caver is printed is
>cheaper based on a bulk run.
>
>There are some copyright things that have been discussed in the past too
>but I think the TSA has been working on those.
>
>So who knows, come to a meeting, bring it up and enjoy the lively
>discussion about it.
>
>Cheers! 
>
>Joe
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com
>[mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Mark Alman
>Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 7:54 AM
>To: jerryat...@aol.com; Texascavers@texascavers.com
>Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Activities Newsletter Returns :
>
>Nice job on the newsletter, Jerry! Very thorough and informative.
> 
>Has any thought been given to having the Texas Caver available for
>viewing and downloading online for PAID TSA members?
> 
>For those that want this option, it would save on postage and printing
>costs and the savings could be used for cave preservation and
>acquisition.
> 
>Just my 1/50th of a dollar.
> 
>Keep up the good work!
> 
>Mark Alman
> 
>
>
>jerryat...@aol.com wrote:
>At the TSA Business meeting held at this years' TCR, the membership
>decided to resurrect the TSA Activities Newsletter. 
>The November 2005 issue of the ANL is available for downloading at :
>
>http://www.cavetexas.org/anl.html
>
>It is the intent of the editor to post the ANL monthly to the TSA
>website. 
>Due to the prohibitive cost of printing and mailing a monthly hardcopy
>publication, the ANL will be distributed to all cavers in a digital pdf
>format which can be downloaded free-of-charge from the TSA website at : 
>http://www.cavetexas.org/
>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:23:47 -0600
>From: "Goff, Ed" <ed.g...@tm.com>
>Subject: [Texascavers] TSA Officers Election - Candidates
>To: Terry Holsinger <tr...@sprynet.com>,       "Texascavers@texascavers.com"
>       <Texascavers@texascavers.com>
>Message-ID: <bf9a13a3.19db1%ed.g...@tm.com>
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>  
>
>>So Ed, who all is on the ballot this year?
>>
>>Terry H.
>>    
>>
>
>I'm afraid that's a secret, Terry. Need-to-know-basis sort of thing. You
>know, protect the caves and all.... Sorry folks, didn't mean for this to be
>a mystery. The candidates are:
>
>Chairman : John Brooks (DFWG)
>Vice-Chairman : Kara Dittmer (UTG) and Jim
>Kennedy (UTG) 
>Secretary : Andy Gluesenkamp (UTG) and Cat
>Kennedy (UTG) 
>Treasurer : Michael Cicherski (Bexar)
>
>This info is also on page 1 of the new TSA Activities Newsletter.
>
>Ed
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 5
>Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:53:30 -0600
>From: "Bill Mixon" <billmi...@worldnet.att.net>
>Subject: [Texascavers] Stenlight  S7
>To: "CaveTex" <texascavers@texascavers.com>
>Message-ID: <00d801c5e6f1$9e6abfb0$5c43490c@yourvvx88vyrxo>
>Content-Type: text/plain;      charset="iso-8859-1"
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>That "perfect caving light" costs $300! That in itself seems to me to be
>considerable imperfection. Of course, I'm old enought to remember buying
>Justrite carbide cap lamps for $3.85. (I'm still using one.) You can get a
>light with one 3W LED in it and three levels of brightness for something
>like $40, I think. Certainly less than $50. The one I bought from IMO at the
>NSS convention last summer would suffice for essentially any caving, seems
>to me. It's a Princeton Tec light; doesn't have a model number on it. Holds
>three cheap AAA bateries internally; no cables or connections. Appears
>reasonably water-resistant, but shouldn't be submerged for long. Could have
>somewhat wider dispersion of the light, but for the difference in price
>compared to the "perfect caving light"....
>   There's a review of the Stenlight S7 in the November NSS News.-- Mixon
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 6
>Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:55:59 -0800 (PST)
>From: Kara Dittmer <misskarabi...@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Officers Election - Candidates
>To: "Goff, Ed" <ed.g...@tm.com>, Terry Holsinger <tr...@sprynet.com>,
>       "Texascavers@texascavers.com" <Texascavers@texascavers.com>
>Message-ID: <20051111195559.40264.qm...@web36210.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>Wow, an impressive showing from the UT Grotto, and an
>opportunity to inject some fresh energy into the TSA.
>I'd like to take this opportunity to say that I would
>be pleased to serve as your Vice Chair if elected.
>While I'm new to the TSA, I do have experience
>organizing events for largeish groups, and this would
>be an opportunity to expand on that experience. I look
>forward to finding the way I will be able give back to
>the caving community. 
>
>Thanks everyone, and Happy Caving!
>Kara Dittmer
>
>--- "Goff, Ed" <ed.g...@tm.com> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>>So Ed, who all is on the ballot this year?
>>>
>>>Terry H.
>>>      
>>>
>>I'm afraid that's a secret, Terry.
>>Need-to-know-basis sort of thing. You
>>know, protect the caves and all.... Sorry folks,
>>didn't mean for this to be
>>a mystery. The candidates are:
>>
>>Chairman : John Brooks (DFWG)
>>Vice-Chairman : Kara Dittmer (UTG) and Jim
>>Kennedy (UTG) 
>>Secretary : Andy Gluesenkamp (UTG) and Cat
>>Kennedy (UTG) 
>>Treasurer : Michael Cicherski (Bexar)
>>
>>This info is also on page 1 of the new TSA
>>Activities Newsletter.
>>
>>Ed
>>
>>
>>
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>Message: 7
>Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 12:14:28 -0800 (PST)
>From: Kara Dittmer <misskarabi...@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Stenlight  S7 and others
>To: Bill Mixon <billmi...@worldnet.att.net>,   CaveTex
>       <texascavers@texascavers.com>
>Message-ID: <20051111201428.90590.qm...@web36214.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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>My new MYO XP makes me very happy, and retails for
>around $70 dollars, actually. I haven't seen a 3watt
>light for less than that, but maybe I'm not looking in
>the right place.  I like it better than the Apex by
>Princeton Tec because I found the Apex to have dark
>rings in the light, and the Petzl Myo XP has a nice
>even light. Everyone is taking bets that the diffuser
>lens on the Myo will be the first part of it to break,
>but I've beat it up pretty good (Maple Run might be a
>small Texas Wormhole but it's not easy on equipment
>trip after trip) and flipped it around a bunch and its
>doing just fine. These are both 3 watt (I know the Myo
>XP is, pretty sure about the APEX) and we'll find out
>if they are bright enough when I hit those Mexican
>pits next week or so. I don't like the heat sink
>casing on the Apex, seems like it will trap mud. Also,
>you need a tool to open the battery pack (built into
>the strap adjuster) and it is more bulky and heavier.
>Plus, the Apex retails for $10 more. On the upside,
>the button switch has moved to the bottom of the lamp
>on this model, which only makes sense.  I do like the
>battery indicator on the MyoXP, and while the booster
>button seems like a fancy feature, I'm unconvinced it
>actually provides a brighter light for enough extra
>time to be useful. The switch on this light is
>protected when the lamp is positioned in the neutral
>(I"m talking about the tilting ability of the light)
>position, and theoretically it can't be accidentaly
>turned on in your pack. Also, this light takes AA's
>and is very small and lightweight.  I do seem to run
>through batteries faster than I would expect with the
>MYOxp but I have considered going lithium.... any
>input on that? 
>The princeton tec Eos is bright (1 watt), retails for
>a reasonable $40, but is a very focused beam, and
>sometimes not diffuse enough for my purposes. Also has
>the same trouble with accessing the battery pack (does
>not have the built in tool as far as I can tell...)
>and requires AAA, a downside to some. 
>I'm most impressed by the Princeton Tec Corona. Not a
>3 watt light, but has 8 smaller leds and is sturdy,
>bright, and versatile.If i recall, its more waterproof
>than the Apex or Eos.  
>Princeton tec is also very good about repairing and
>replacing broken and malfunctioning lights for little
>to nothing, although it takes them a while.
>
>I've explored these options because while the
>Stenlight looks fly, it is definately in another orbit
>than my caver light budget allows.  
>
>Kara
>
>--- Bill Mixon <billmi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>That "perfect caving light" costs $300! That in
>>itself seems to me to be
>>considerable imperfection. Of course, I'm old
>>enought to remember buying
>>Justrite carbide cap lamps for $3.85. (I'm still
>>using one.) You can get a
>>light with one 3W LED in it and three levels of
>>brightness for something
>>like $40, I think. Certainly less than $50. The one
>>I bought from IMO at the
>>NSS convention last summer would suffice for
>>essentially any caving, seems
>>to me. It's a Princeton Tec light; doesn't have a
>>model number on it. Holds
>>three cheap AAA bateries internally; no cables or
>>connections. Appears
>>reasonably water-resistant, but shouldn't be
>>submerged for long. Could have
>>somewhat wider dispersion of the light, but for the
>>difference in price
>>compared to the "perfect caving light"....
>>   There's a review of the Stenlight S7 in the
>>November NSS News.-- Mixon
>>
>>
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>Message: 8
>Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:37:38 EST
>From: bcow...@aol.com
>Subject: [Texascavers] Job opening in Austin
>To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
>Message-ID: <230.104e903.30a67...@aol.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
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>Outfit in Austin looking for a hydrogeologist, Contact Carl Ponebshek in  San 
>Antonio.210-824-4843. I don't know the particulars other that is son has  
>been with the company many years and they are looking for someone. Posted for  
>Carl is pc is down.
>BOB  COWELL
>5806 CACTUS SUN
>SAN ANTONIO,TX 78244-1260
>HP-210-662-9171 WP  -210-655-2144 Cel 210-724-9365
>WEB CAM ubwell2020 @yahoo.com
>EMAIL  bcow...@aol.com
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>Message: 9
>Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 19:42:47 -0600
>From: "Sharon Faulkner" <sfaul...@bellsouth.net>
>Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Princeton Tec EOS
>To: "Kara Dittmer" <misskarabi...@yahoo.com>,  "CaveTex"
>       <texascavers@texascavers.com>
>Message-ID: <004501c5e72a$635e6320$0101a8c0@pavilion>
>Content-Type: text/plain;      charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>More on the EOS....
>
>I bought a Princeton Tec EOS during TAG last month.  So far, I am very 
>satisfied with it.  I had heard many favorable comments on the light prior to 
>considering it as an option, but when I saw the small size of it at TAG, I was 
>somewhat dubious.  After using it incave the last month, I am now a believer 
>in this light.  
>
>We have just recently had a discussion of the EOS on another forum.  Here is 
>the link to the thread if anyone is interested:  http://tinyurl.com/az643
>
>The Stenlight S7 seems to be a caver's dream light, but not in my budget for 
>2005.  
>
>Sharon
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Kara Dittmer" <misskarabi...@yahoo.com>
>To: "Bill Mixon" <billmi...@worldnet.att.net>; "CaveTex" 
><texascavers@texascavers.com>
>Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 2:14 PM
>Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Stenlight S7 and others
>
>  
>
>>The princeton tec Eos is bright (1 watt), retails for
>>a reasonable $40, but is a very focused beam, and
>>sometimes not diffuse enough for my purposes. Also has
>>the same trouble with accessing the battery pack (does
>>not have the built in tool as far as I can tell...)
>>and requires AAA, a downside to some. 
>>I'm most impressed by the Princeton Tec Corona. Not a
>>3 watt light, but has 8 smaller leds and is sturdy,
>>bright, and versatile.If i recall, its more waterproof
>>than the Apex or Eos.  
>>Princeton tec is also very good about repairing and
>>replacing broken and malfunctioning lights for little
>>to nothing, although it takes them a while.
>>
>>I've explored these options because while the
>>Stenlight looks fly, it is definately in another orbit
>>than my caver light budget allows.  
>>
>>Kara
>>    
>>
>
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